jbx1972

New Law, but what resource?

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Just wondering if HH has provided the police forces of our fair nation with hundreds more police officers to raid brothels and arrest mostly innocent punters who pay for sex?

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The cops are too busy going after people that sell goldfish!

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Politicians are great at thinking up ideas, but not the practicalities of implementing them.

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but like the lotto

it could be you

job gone

family shunning you

wife talking divorce

etc etc

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but like the lotto

it could be you

job gone

family shunning you

wife talking divorce

etc etc

Yea, but you've got to look on the bright side, it could be worse, your favourite WG might decide to retire.

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Politicians are great at thinking up ideas, but not the practicalities of implementing them.

Bill Clinton ,thought of some brilliant ideas ,when he was president .....

(i did not have Sexual relations with that woman, Monica lewinsky )

His logic ,the oral sex he received from her in the White House , is not a sexual relation .

I did not smoke Cannabis ,when i was a student .......

His logic , he didn;t inhale the smoke from the joint ,so it didn;t count as smoking it .

Yet ,he was and remains ,one of the most popular ex US presidents .

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but like the lotto

it could be you

job gone

family shunning you

wife talking divorce

etc etc

And you can't get US or Australian visas among others ....

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And you can't get US or Australian visas among others ....

Yet brothels are legal in Australia???

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Yet brothels are legal in Australia???

Is this a question of a statement?

I don't know if they are or not.

What I do know is that apart from raving Catholic Ireland this is the most sexually uptight country in Northern Europe and always has been.

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Is this a question of a statement?

I don't know if they are or not.

What I do know is that apart from raving Catholic Ireland this is the most sexually uptight country in Northern Europe and always has been.

It's a statement. Here is a link to the licensing agency in Queensland, least you wish to open one:D

http://www.pla.qld.gov.au/

So why should the Aussie's exclude anyone for a prostitution related 'offence' in the UK?

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A new command within the Metropolitan Police service will have responsibility for policing extreme porn and indecent images of children as well as prostituion and human trafficking.

The creation of the unit is either a vital step forward in the fight against human trafficking and exploitation, or a serious waste of police resources, motivated by political correctness, depending on your point of view.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/13/met_trafficking/

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The Police have already started using the law

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8600118.stm

I just love the quote at the end of this: "men who visit brothels and pay for sex are exploiting vulnerable woman and plying a trade of abuse."

Personally, I've never believed for one minute that any of the girls I've visited are vulnerable or being abused. Most of the girls who work in the trade in reputable establishments are in it by choice and, to my mind, make a large amount of money from it.

Helping girls "leave prostitution" will be like being made redundant for many.

Jx

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It's a statement. Here is a link to the licensing agency in Queensland, ... ...

Wah! Very many thanks for that! Go to the site, and then read this:

http://www.pla.qld.gov.au/Resources/PLA/theLaw/Legal%20Opinion%20re%20motel%20rooms%20-%20for%20web.pdf

Yes, that applies to Queensland, not Scotland, and it is legal advice, not a court decision, but from another common law jurisdiction.

Discrimination (Equality Act 2006 and maybe this years' offering too!) is certainly a point here, but the matter that I pounce on is the complete absence of any suggestion that a Hotel can turn a pre-paid guest away at whim, absent any contractual provision to that effect. More to the point since (I rather think) the majority of 4* and 3* hotel bed-nights are paid for for business purposes, note that all business use would need to be prohibited, if "personal" services was to be banned!

I'm also much amused to see that if I hire a stripper, who goes a long way, she (in Queensland at least) doesn't make herself into a prostitute!

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One "set up" raid and so called arrest, nothing since, wonder why? because there are so few working girls who are forced into what they do that the police must spend all their working time allocated to this, trying to find them. An unneccessary piece of legislation only formed as a product of vindictive extreme feminists in the Labour Party, who must so loathe men it is beyond belief. If as written here the chances of being arrested for this trumped up offence is akin to winning the lottery then the average "Joe" has nothing to worry about. Best when visiting a Massage Parlour to park well away and walk, don't carry anything that will identify you just cash. If plod do raid and take you down the Station, say absolutely nothing do NOT identify yourself, keep absolutely SILENT, make them do the work, they will soon tire because they will not have a hope in hell of putting the case before a court and please ignore their threats about the nonsense of inhibiting their investigation, it is YOUR right to remain silent. Just sit it out even it is overnight.

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If plod do raid and take you down the Station, say absolutely nothing do NOT identify yourself, keep absolutely SILENT, make them do the work, they will soon tire because they will not have a hope in hell of putting the case before a court and please ignore their threats about the nonsense of inhibiting their investigation, it is YOUR right to remain silent. Just sit it out even it is overnight.

It is not quite as simple as that, alas!

One needs to read, mark, learn and inwardly digest, both PACE and RIPA (for a start), I think.

Then it is vital to get the police to arrest you! If you are at the station as a "volunteer" then you have very few rights. As soon as you are arrested you do need to give your name, date of birth and address, BUT importantly your Custody Record has to be opened, various clocks start ticking and, if they want to "interview" you, then you get the right to legal advice from the duty solicitor (at their expense) or your own (at yours).

The correct answer, if cautioned, is to say, "What good advice!" and nothing more! It is the prosecutor's duty to support any charge he may bring to court with admissible evidence: it is not your duty to provide that evidence. With the s53A offence, I cannot think of anything on which you might want to rely at court, which you ought to mention at the station, unless it is, "I was just walking down the road, when I was bundled into the police van. I don't know what is happening!"

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It is not quite as simple as that, alas!

One needs to read, mark, learn and inwardly digest, both PACE and RIPA (for a start), I think.

Then it is vital to get the police to arrest you! If you are at the station as a "volunteer" then you have very few rights. As soon as you are arrested you do need to give your name, date of birth and address, BUT importantly your Custody Record has to be opened, various clocks start ticking and, if they want to "interview" you, then you get the right to legal advice from the duty solicitor (at their expense) or your own (at yours).

The correct answer, if cautioned, is to say, "What good advice!" and nothing more! It is the prosecutor's duty to support any charge he may bring to court with admissible evidence: it is not your duty to provide that evidence. With the s53A offence, I cannot think of anything on which you might want to rely at court, which you ought to mention at the station, unless it is, "I was just walking down the road, when I was bundled into the police van. I don't know what is happening!"

If I were taken to the Police Station for any offence, I would say absolutely nothing, the silence would be deafening, they could keep me there for eons I still would say nothing, I would not eat or drink and would take a stance of absolutely no cooperation. But that's me I'm a stubborn bastard.

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