Guest Xenia

Money did not changed hands.

27 posts in this topic

I understand that according to the rules, Fr should not be submitted when money did not changed hands.

Is it supposed to be taken literally?

1) Does it counts if for example when all the fee was refunded by WG to the client? Yes, money might did "exchanged hands" (and even that might not be the case. The money could be simply left on the table, if to be anal about it), but she did not had any of it at the end.

2) When fiver or £1 was dropped or left in the premises, so punter can post report later?

For example in this FR money was fully refunded by WG without any argument. Does it still counts that "money exchanged hands"?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this report was probably published in error and that Galahad will probably delete.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The thing with cock ups is its rarely just one thing thats the cause but several.

He didnt ask specfics over the phone but the services were advertised.

Not the lady he expected but he decided to go ahead anyway.

She wasnt well and probably ought to have cancelled, but immediately copped a guilty plea and promptly refunded the money.

I would say he should not write up an FR but im very glad he did rather than start a song and dance about it on the forum! :P

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why she was working at all that day beats me. Her heart was barely in it. He did well to ask for a refund. And whoever handles their advertising ought to make it clear that the lady advertised may not be the one seen that day. I like to ask a client on the phone what he'd like in the session. That way I can confirm that he'll be getting what he's after, and not end up disappointed (like if the decorators are in and certain things are off limits).

However, shoot me down in flames for what I'm about to say, but, the guy, in my opinion, comes across as something of a churlish jerk.

It was rude of him to approach her door without ringing the entrance buzzer. I don't care if he'd phoned from the car already (and which he was forced to do because he didn't have the door number). Even if the main entrance door was open, even if he'd given her an extra two minutes on top of the five she'd asked for. Him going straight to the lady's door is inexcusable. Without doubt, if he'd had the door number, he'd have gone straight to her door when he arrived before the appointed time, another dumb thing that some punters do.

On a wider note, of his three reports, not one of the ladies is recommended. He is either sloppy with his research (although very pedantic about what services he expects to be offered); or only feels moved to write a report when things don't go in his favour.

Either way, I see a person who never has a good thing to say about any one he visits and as a person seeking services, I'd give very little weight to his reviews. A review, for him, is a tool to exercise his vindictiveness, to teach the lady a lesson for failing to meet his needs.

When he has a great punt, if he has ever had one, he never thinks to share the knowledge. He doesn't write reviews as a knowledge sharing exercise to benefit the wider punting community - probably because he hates the idea that writing a review would help the lady (with promotion). He's a 24 carat mysoginist. And he damn well knows it!

The lady gave him a full refund. She really could have done no less, although sadly, a lot of service providers would have attempted to haggle or flat out refuse to refund anything. But she'll look at the fact that he went ahead and wrote an unfavourable report anyway and maybe not be as willing to redress any wrongs quite so grandly in future.

It's a pity the report will eventually come down, as it says more about him as a prick than it will ever say about the lady being a bad service provider who was probably genuinely having an off day, but is otherwise fine and professional - especially if the client can be arsed to ring the entrance buzzer like a gentleman should.

xxx

Pru (taking careful position for the Punternet Firing Squad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

But money did change hands. Twice. So I don't see as how the rules were broken.

Predictable that in spite of his pretty lucid and, in places, not uncomplimentary report, there are those that still feel the need to take a pop at him. Seems to me from reading the FR, the guy showed up expecting the person and services advertised, and got neither. He was prompt, he observed her request to wait until she was ready, he took his shoes off once he got inside, and he had the money ready. He admitted he hadn't checked by phone to verify that the services advertised were actually going to be delivered, but none of this makes it his fault the punt did not go well. He rightly felt cheated, and fair play to the WG in question for giving him a refund.

So what if he's only written three reports and they're all negative? If anything, those kind of reports are more useful to real punters than the glowing, sycophantic nonsense that many reviewers (especially many one-off reviewers) file on here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I understand that according to the rules, Fr should not be submitted when money did not changed hands.

Is it supposed to be taken literally?

1) Does it counts if for example when all the fee was refunded by WG to the client? Yes, money might did "exchanged hands" (and even that might not be the case. The money could be simply left on the table, if to be anal about it), but she did not had any of it at the end.

2) When fiver or £1 was dropped or left in the premises, so punter can post report later?

For example in this FR money was fully refunded by WG without any argument. Does it still counts that "money exchanged hands"?

You know what I find disgraceful is that she decided to work, even though she didn't feel well.

Think of all those men she is going to give her germs to. They pass them on to their wives, who pass them on to everyone they come into contact with at sainsbury's.

The kids spread it around the other children at their school, who then take it home to their families.

And I may then end up sitting next to one of these germ infested people, on a train, or something and get it too.

Selfish, selfish, selfish. :)

But money did change hands. Twice. So I don't see as how the rules were broken.

Predictable that in spite of his pretty lucid and, in places, not uncomplimentary report, there are those that still feel the need to take a pop at him. Seems to me from reading the FR, the guy showed up expecting the person and services advertised, and got neither. He was prompt, he observed her request to wait until she was ready, he took his shoes off once he got inside, and he had the money ready. He admitted he hadn't checked by phone to verify that the services advertised were actually going to be delivered, but none of this makes it his fault the punt did not go well. He rightly felt cheated, and fair play to the WG in question for giving him a refund.

So what if he's only written three reports and they're all negative? If anything, those kind of reports are more useful to real punters than the glowing, sycophantic nonsense that many reviewers (especially many one-off reviewers) file on here.

Quit moaning.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Predictable that in spite of his pretty lucid and, in places, not uncomplimentary report, there are those that still feel the need to take a pop at him.

Why does that surprise you, there will always be people on here, male and female who will insist that the punter is wrong.:)

I hope Galahad allows the report to remain, it is a bit of a grey area but money DID change hands.

The only thing that surprised me was that he got a full refund. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It was rude of him to approach her door without ringing the entrance buzzer. I don't care if he'd phoned from the car already (and which he was forced to do because he didn't have the door number). Even if the main entrance door was open, even if he'd given her an extra two minutes on top of the five she'd asked for. Him going straight to the lady's door is inexcusable.

He's a 24 carat mysoginist.

You are typical of the people on here who will always make the punter wrong.

This is what he said -----

Someone was coming out of the building as I approached the front door and so I entered the building without buzzing the flat bell at the front door and went straight to the lift. I texted her to warn her I was on the way up and she replied, "OK."

So he phoned from the car and also sent a text ------- I fail to see what he did wrong. :):confused:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why does that surprise you, there will always be people on here, male and female who will insist that the punter is wrong.:)

The pictures on the Blonde Escorts site are of Priya Anjeli Rai (one of the better "ringer" sites I think), so most if not all bets are off anyway.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You are typical of the people on here who will always make the punter wrong.

This is what he said -----

Someone was coming out of the building as I approached the front door and so I entered the building without buzzing the flat bell at the front door and went straight to the lift. I texted her to warn her I was on the way up and she replied, "OK."

So he phoned from the car and also sent a text ------- I fail to see what he did wrong. :):confused:

I can't see anything wrong in his approach unless she has a lot of guys waiting outside. She should have known who was coming to the door in the next 5 minutes.

Regards being ill we don't know what she had was contagious plus I have had chaps try persuading me quite heavily to see them when I've been ill with tonsilitis!!!!!

Anyway it's a fair FR recounting his experience and she did refund him although shouldn't have agreed to see him if she wasn't up to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the FR should stay, to many get deleted allowing these girls to continue with their cheating and deceiving ways.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On a wider note, of his three reports, not one of the ladies is recommended. He is either sloppy with his research (although very pedantic about what services he expects to be offered); or only feels moved to write a report when things don't go in his favour.

Either way, I see a person who never has a good thing to say about any one he visits and as a person seeking services, I'd give very little weight to his reviews. A review, for him, is a tool to exercise his vindictiveness, to teach the lady a lesson for failing to meet his needs.

When he has a great punt, if he has ever had one, he never thinks to share the knowledge. He doesn't write reviews as a knowledge sharing exercise to benefit the wider punting community - probably because he hates the idea that writing a review would help the lady (with promotion). He's a 24 carat mysoginist. And he damn well knows it!

This is all speculation on your part, and reveals more about you than it does about the FR writer.

For a start, he says he's been punting several decades. Perhaps he only came across PN in the last year or so. He has three reports online, over a twelve-month period, and for all we know, there may have been others. He says in one FR that this is the first time he's filed a negative report, which implies he may have filed other positive ones previously.

His reports are articulate, and he is complimentary about the WGs' appearance in each report. In each case, his complaint was about services, or the lack of them. Where's the element of mysoginy?

So you'd give little weight to his reviews. So what? They're not there for you, they're there for punters. Perhaps he's just a guy who feels he only needs to file a FR when something goes wrong. Again, so what? Plenty of punts are fine and enjoyable, but not FR-worthy, and for all sorts of reasons. And I've seen plenty of people on here (punters and WGs alike) who claim they only read FRs that have a red 'no' against them, because they're usually the most entertaining. There's no law that says one has to file a balanced number of FRs. This guy speaks as he finds, and as I said earlier, his reviews are more useful to us than some of the less credible though nonetheless fawning FRs that seem to come in ever increasing numbers from one-time-only 'reviewers'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I understand that according to the rules, Fr should not be submitted when money did not changed hands.

Is it supposed to be taken literally?

1) Does it counts if for example when all the fee was refunded by WG to the client? Yes, money might did "exchanged hands" (and even that might not be the case. The money could be simply left on the table, if to be anal about it), but she did not had any of it at the end.

2) When fiver or £1 was dropped or left in the premises, so punter can post report later?

For example in this FR money was fully refunded by WG without any argument. Does it still counts that "money exchanged hands"?

probably means that money was explicitly exchanged for sex.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I understand that according to the rules, Fr should not be submitted when money did not changed hands.

Is it supposed to be taken literally?

1) Does it counts if for example when all the fee was refunded by WG to the client? Yes, money might did "exchanged hands" (and even that might not be the case. The money could be simply left on the table, if to be anal about it), but she did not had any of it at the end.

2) When fiver or £1 was dropped or left in the premises, so punter can post report later?

For example in this FR money was fully refunded by WG without any argument. Does it still counts that "money exchanged hands"?

I understood it to mean literally which is why i gave a bad lying service provider a £1 coin so i could submit a FR on her and her colleagues lying. Problem was i thought she was going to get physically violent, luckily she only gave my a load of verbal while i hurried out, slamming doors behind me. In the case you mention money did change hands and good for him he got his back.

How can it be right that a punter cant submit a FR on a punt where the lady has confirmed services, price and description on the phone and he arrives to find what she told him was not true, so he walks without paying. Of course a punter could lie and say he did pay but they shouldnt have to do that IMO. This to me is a flaw in the FR system, its exactly these bad providers who lie that punters should be allowed to do an FR on warning others in my view.:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
How can it be right that a punter cant submit a FR on a punt where the lady has confirmed services, price and description on the phone and he arrives to find what she told him was not true

Not forgetting that the pictures on the Blonde Escorts website are of a different person, no surprises there though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Not forgetting that the pictures on the Blonde Escorts website are of a different person, no surprises there though.

That is what i mean a blatent lie, a scam for money then they bitch over negative FR's

These should be reported at all costs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How can it be right that a punter cant submit a FR on a punt where the lady has confirmed services, price and description on the phone and he arrives to find what she told him was not true, so he walks without paying. This to me is a flaw in the FR system, its exactly these bad providers who lie that punters should be allowed to do an FR on warning others in my view.:)

I agree. There must be dozens, at least, of punts that don't go ahead because the punter chooses to walk, for good reasons that other punters should be made aware of. There may even be a good few where the punter gets his money back and has reasons for walking that others ought to be aware of. (In my opinion, this was not one of them) It's a surprise that the field report system doesn't cater for these, even if only under a sub heading. They'd be the most read.

xxx

Pru

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I agree. There must be dozens, at least, of punts that don't go ahead because the punter chooses to walk, for good reasons that other punters should be made aware of. There may even be a good few where the punter gets his money back and has reasons for walking that others ought to be aware of. (In my opinion, this was not one of them) It's a surprise that the field report system doesn't cater for these, even if only under a sub heading. They'd be the most read.

xxx

Pru

The option is to post about the experience on here, but that will of course only reach those that read the forum, from my own personal experience more people know/read the FR system than the forum.:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is a real shame Galahad does not change the rules about money needing to change hands before a report will be accepted. I'm sure there are as many let downs that never get reported as there are successful punts. But no-one ever gets to find out unless the punter parted with his cash.

I don't think any serious punter can honestly say they have never been let down by an escort, walked out of a punt, had the bait and switch trick pulled by an agency, advertised services strangely not available upon meeting, and on and on.

It happens to us all, but we can't warn anyone.

There is nothing worse than traveling miles only to find a different girl awaiting you, or her phone switched off when you ring, right girl but nothing like her photos or stated size or age. Yes, I've had all those happen to me.

Is it not possible to add a separate section for this type of punting disaster without resorting to posting it on the forum?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
It is a real shame Galahad does not change the rules about money needing to change hands before a report will be accepted. I'm sure there are as many let downs that never get reported as there are successful punts. But no-one ever gets to find out unless the punter parted with his cash.

Couple that with a refusal to publish advertisements from those with a track record of "ringer" pictures (Blonde Escorts for example), and you could be on a winner.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the report should remain simply for the fact that if its not the lady in the pictures that a punter sees then its bait and switch

to remove the report would allow this lady to continue to work with impunity - which is surely against the ethos of punternet

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The option is to post about the experience on here, but that will of course only reach those that read the forum, from my own personal experience more people know/read the FR system than the forum.:)

Spot on. I've been punting since 2000, posted my first FR in 2002, but didn't realize this forum even existed until October 2009.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

However, shoot me down in flames for what I'm about to say, but, the guy, in my opinion, comes across as something of a churlish jerk.

He doesn't write reviews as a knowledge sharing exercise to benefit the wider punting community - probably because he hates the idea that writing a review would help the lady (with promotion). He's a 24 carat mysoginist. And he damn well knows it!

Ebony, you go on to make some good points about her probably reconsidering the wisdom of offering a refund, but on your earlier remark, above, that he's a mysoginist - where do take that reading from? - the 'buzzer'?; his inclination write a negative FR anyway? I just couldn't find anything in any of his three reports that could lead one to fairly conclude the same. I'd be interested to hear.

To me its the kind of description that needs to be used sparingly and accurately - like racist, anti-semitic; "total nightmare', because misuse or overuse risks making the word lose its' pointedness.

Waddya think?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Spot on. I've been punting since 2000, posted my first FR in 2002, but didn't realize this forum even existed until October 2009.

I was in a similar position, i had been reading the FRs for a long time without knowing there was a forum, the reason being in my case, was because it isnt called a forum, message board wasnt something i clicked on till September 2008 and to my amazement saw all this.:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ebony, you go on to make some good points about her probably reconsidering the wisdom of offering a refund, but on your earlier remark, above, that he's a mysoginist - where do take that reading from? - the 'buzzer'?; his inclination write a negative FR anyway? I just couldn't find anything in any of his three reports that could lead one to fairly conclude the same. I'd be interested to hear.

To me its the kind of description that needs to be used sparingly and accurately - like racist, anti-semitic; "total nightmare', because misuse or overuse risks making the word lose its' pointedness.

Waddya think?

Not from the buzzer bit, no. The over-all tone. It's something I pick up on - and I'm seldom wrong.

What I think is I should have read his other two reports before labelling him a mysognist for certain, true. :) And I shall. But lumping the term mysognist with things like racist, and anti-semitic (which are terms I would use sparingly) is a bit far-fetched.

But I'll read his other reports and see if I still feel that's the term I want to use for him.

xxx

Pru

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now