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Have young WGs got a better attitude ?

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Now dont hang me !:D. I throw this out to get the views of other board members-- to see if there is any common thread.

Everyone is different and we all know we can find examples of anything in oreder to disprove a generalisation. So having acknowledged that, lets see if we can generalise on something--- to see if there is more likelihood of something occurring in one situation more than another.

Do board members find that younger WGs have a more positive carefree attitude to their work rather than their older colleagues.? By older I mean a lady who has been working for at least 5-6 or say a lady 30+. Do they become more inflexible, more sensitive, more critical, more impatient, more insistent on compliance with the rules ,regs and ettiquette laid down in their websites as a result of their experience of the industry and baggage collected from life in general ? This happens probably to most of us as we go thru life I suppose but I wonder does this phenomenon visit WGs earlier due to the nature of the business. ?

Let me be clear --- I love women of all ages [ well I would have an upper age limit ! ] but whilst the more experienced WG can undoubtedly bring many different qualities to the punt that the younger ladies may lack, I think [ aside from the possible physical advantages of youth ] that there is a certain extra enthusiasm , freshness and sparkle that the younger, perhaps less life experienced ladies can bring to the party. Does this affect the punting experience ?

Does anyone have any views or do you think that there is no difference whatsoever ?

p.s. Btw -- I have no doubt I have picked up baggage myself ! :D

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Girls become hardened by the industry and often when you see a girl that's been doing it for a time it is very much of the fact that they have a process / agenda they like to go through.

Without a doubt the best option is girls that are fresh and perhaps part time wives / mothers etc, just doing it to top up their money. Much more relaxed and fun.

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If we're pissed off with being messed about, who do you think is to blame for that?

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If we're pissed off with being messed about, who do you think is to blame for that?

Ahh, normality returns :D:D

I imagine that there are really only 2 kinds of women who've been doing this for 5+ years ; those who still love it, and those who have become jaded in that time. I've no idea what the ratio would be between the two, but I'd like to think that some of the jaded individuals will move on to pastures new (as much for themselves as for anything else).

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If we're pissed off with being messed about, who do you think is to blame for that?

you of course, if you can't handle the nature of the business then you are in the wrong industry, don''t blame others for your problems.

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Sorry, when I read that back it doesn't really say what I was meaning.

OK:

Firstly, it depends on your view of a 'better' attitude. You use the word 'carefree', for example.

I don't believe selling sex should be something you do with a 'carefree' attitude. It should be something you do very carefully, in fact.

Perhaps there is a correlation between age/newness to the industry and a more relaxed attitude. You mention things like 'etiquette' and suggest that older /more experienced WG's are more of a stickler for these things. I believe this has come about for two reasons.

One is that a sense of responsibility to others often comes with age/maturity. As we go through life and people let us down, in small or big ways, our views on this become strengthened and we start to think 'I would never treat someone like that. And if I would never treat someone that way, I am not going to put up with people doing it to me'. We begin to behave properly, and to expect other people to behave accordingly. When we are younger and more 'carefree' we treat people any old way and expect them to make excuses because of our youth.

The other is that when we start in this business we often wear rose-tinted specs. If someone tells us they will be there at ten, we eagerly anticipate their ten o'clock arrival.

But after a couple of years of 3am calls, no-shows, enquiries for services we don't offer, the specs come off. That's when we start getting less patient with people who for example don't read our websites.

An example:

Weds I received an email enquiring about an appt for that evening. It was a perfectly normal email and the chap was polite, and told me which hotel etc. I emailed back to say yes, I was free, would xxx time suit, please confirm room number by phone, by xxx time. Later that day I had another enquiry which I turned down, as I had committed my time to the first booking.

The confirmation call never arrived, ho hum, timewaster.

The next day he emailed again with a very similar request, and when I replied saying 'You also requested this yesterday and as you wasted my evening I am afraid I won't take the booking tonight' he replied very apologetically, his plans had changed, he hadn't been able to get in touch. I thanked him for the apology but told him I was still not free that evening, perhaps next time he was in town we could get together. He didn't reply.

Friday - he sent me an ** booking, for a half hour incall at 10pm Friday evening.

Now, my reaction to this was as follows.

We had been in touch by email, I felt that to then send an ** booking without asking if I was free first was a little rude. Secondly, I don't do incalls after 4pm , this is clearly stated on my site and is the first line of my ** profile, in capital letters. Thirdly, the availability page on my site clearly said I wasnt working last night anyway.

So, he had been a little abrupt, he had ignored my carefully maintained website and ** profile. He is probably a very nice man but now I don't want to see him at all.

Some may say if I was younger or newer I wouldn't care - some may say 'isnt it all about the money anyway'?

But I only want to meet people who care about the fact that I am a human being, and who treat me as they would wish to be treated. I don't think that's an age thing.

And when I DO meet those men, I don't think they find me lacking in freshness and sparkle - and certainly not in enthusiasm.

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An example:

Weds I received an email enquiring about an appt for that evening. It was a perfectly normal email and the chap was polite, and told me which hotel etc. I emailed back to say yes, I was free, would xxx time suit, please confirm room number by phone, by xxx time. Later that day I had another enquiry which I turned down, as I had committed my time to the first booking.

The confirmation call never arrived, ho hum, timewaster.

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He made an enquiry and not a booking, how does that make him a timewaster?

In the same way if someone rings a garage to ask if they have in stock a particular car and the dealer confirms he has the car in stock, the dealer then doesn't take the car off sale in the hope that the enquiry will proceed.

The reality is often a client will ask a number of girls about availability and then make his decision.

If you regard every enquiry as a booking then no wonder you have such a jaundiced view.

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An example:

Weds I received an email enquiring about an appt for that evening....

Agree - that's not great. But I think all but the most naive newbie would have been hacked off by that. I would imagine that the vast majority of WGs get wise to that kind of thing very quickly indeed.

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Agree - that's not great. But I think all but the most naive newbie would have been hacked off by that. I

Why would someone be pissed off at a booking enquiry :D

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Now dont hang me !:D. I throw this out to get the views of other board members-- to see if there is any common thread.

Everyone is different and we all know we can find examples of anything in oreder to disprove a generalisation. So having acknowledged that, lets see if we can generalise on something--- to see if there is more likelihood of something occurring in one situation more than another.

Do board members find that younger WGs have a more positive carefree attitude to their work rather than their older colleagues.? By older I mean a lady who has been working for at least 5-6 or say a lady 30+. Do they become more inflexible, more sensitive, more critical, more impatient, more insistent on compliance with the rules ,regs and ettiquette laid down in their websites as a result of their experience of the industry and baggage collected from life in general ? This happens probably to most of us as we go thru life I suppose but I wonder does this phenomenon visit WGs earlier due to the nature of the business. ?

Let me be clear --- I love women of all ages [ well I would have an upper age limit ! ] but whilst the more experienced WG can undoubtedly bring many different qualities to the punt that the younger ladies may lack, I think [ aside from the possible physical advantages of youth ] that there is a certain extra enthusiasm , freshness and sparkle that the younger, perhaps less life experienced ladies can bring to the party. Does this affect the punting experience ?

Does anyone have any views or do you think that there is no difference whatsoever ?

p.s. Btw -- I have no doubt I have picked up baggage myself ! :D

In my view a ladies attitude is dependent on the individual, all my experience tells me no age group is better or worse than another, the punters task is to find those in his required age group that have a good or better attitude. Enthusiasm and friendliness are definately not linked to age. I am not clear what you mean by freshness, can you expand on this please?

I personally have punted with ladies from 18 to 50 ish, some older ladies were immature and some 18 years old were very mature, so it really is dependent on the lady.:)

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I bet that if you were to collect data and produce a scatter plot, you would see zilch correlation between attitude and age.

We all have baggage, as you put it, of some sort. I've known some of the younger ones to bring their own fair share of baggage with them to this game. And yes I've also met some of the more experienced ones who have picked it up along the way. Fact is, it's how you deal with it that counts.

Conversely, I'm sure there are some who have even mellowed over the years.:rolleyes:

One thing's for certain though, attitude can make or break a punt but I wouldn't say that it's any better or worse in relation to age.

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Hmmm, well some of that 'experience' means the WG generally could or will be running a much better, and smoother operation. Over the years I've been in this line of work I've altered my working practises, not because I've become jaded or fed up but simply BECAUSE I don't want to become jaded or fed up. I also want to make sure I'm not entertaining those who are unlikely to turn up because that then could mean they block time for guys who are regulars/do want to see me but only have a limited window. Also if I've spent half the day dealing with those who lead a merry dance it makes it quite difficult (for anyone I may add) to be willing and eager for later appointments.

Since I started I've changed my approach, am no longer putting up with daft texts or demands for 1 liner email replies at silly hours or jumping at every text/email within minutes. I'm a lot more relaxed as a result and can get on with my day not to mention my bookings.

I don't think that's a negative thing and experience is a good thing. If you were completely happy-go-lucky you could put yourself and your clients at risk, not to mention end up turning away genuine guys for those who leave you standing.

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Now dont hang me !:rolleyes:. I throw this out to get the views of other board members-- to see if there is any common thread.

Do board members find that younger WGs have a more positive carefree attitude to their work rather than their older colleagues.? By older I mean a lady who has been working for at least 5-6 or say a lady 30+. Do they become more inflexible, more sensitive, more critical, more impatient, more insistent on compliance with the rules ,regs and ettiquette laid down in their websites as a result of their experience of the industry and baggage collected from life in general ? This happens probably to most of us as we go thru life I suppose but I wonder does this phenomenon visit WGs earlier due to the nature of the business. ?

Let me be clear --- I love women of all ages [ well I would have an upper age limit ! ] but whilst the more experienced WG can undoubtedly bring many different qualities to the punt that the younger ladies may lack, I think [ aside from the possible physical advantages of youth ] that there is a certain extra enthusiasm , freshness and sparkle that the younger, perhaps less life experienced ladies can bring to the party. Does this affect the punting experience ?

Does anyone have any views or do you think that there is no difference whatsoever ?

You raise an interestng point and I'd say yes to both highlighted questions. In my experience, which comes from intermittent punting over 20 years, the better times have mostly (but not exclusively) been had with younger WGs, and for the reasons you suggest. When I have had experiences with older, what could be called 'career' prostitutes, I have mostly not enjoyed them.

But then, I'm not seeing these girls for anything more meaningful than rampant sex, and I get more out of it when the girl herself is young, pretty, relaxed, and quite possibly enjoying it up to a point too. Older women may well have specific or acquired techniques that make the experience more 'professional' but that's not really what I'm there for, and that sort of event just doesn't interest me as much.

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Now dont hang me !:).

Does anyone have any views or do you think that there is no difference whatsoever ?

I'm not going to hang you :rolleyes:. I'm interested in the thought of others myself.

For me, I have no strong preference. I have punted with girls from 19 to 40 and enjoyed girls of all ages within that range. For me, friendliness and warmth are much more important than age and/or sexual experience. What I have noticed (and this might simply be my "bad" luck) is that the younger girls I see seem less keen on DFK than the more mature ladies. This is a sweeping generalisation and certainly doesn't apply to every girl I see, but it is certainly true for me that I get a more consistent kissing experience from the ladies in their 30s and 40s than the younger girls.

Partly because of this, but also due to having more shared ground, I find that the maturer ladies are the ones I tend to go back to and become "regular" with. Again, this is not exclusively true. I know a couple of WGs in their 20s who I have seen quite a few times and will return to.

The best thing about this punting lark though is the variety eh :o?

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Generally I find that, probably because of my own age, I tend to click better with more mature ladies, but that is very much a generalisation. Some ofthe younger ladies I've met - particularly through That Site - don't seem to have a particularly professional attitude to their work in terms of putting a client at ease. Maturity isn't just a physical thing though, it's also very much a psychological one. There are quite a lot of ladies on this site who I wouldn't class as 'mature escorts', but from their posts here it's quite clear they are intelligent women who have thought deeply about all the aspects of what they do; in fact, I think just the fact that they do take an interest in the posts here is a clear indication of their maturity. I can think of only one lady I've seen post here on a regular basis who I don't believe I'd be comfortable meeting (and that's only because she and I have 'exchanged words' in the dim and distant past.

As for the maturity or otherwise of some of the male posters, on the other hand...! :rolleyes:

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I agree with Smiths and Viz, although I would say that my worst punts have mainly been with girls at the lower age range (and I have gone ahead against my better judgement).

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When I started out at my first agency, which was definitely at the cheaper end of the market, it was all kinds of great. The money was awesome and the clients were fun, at least for the first six months. Sooner or later, seeing 3 or more clients a day and giving half my money over to someone who did little more than answer the phone got to the point where it just wasn't as much fun as it used to be.

I didn't realise how bad the agency work actually was until I quit and upped prices. I do think that my attitude changed for the worse. However, I think that girls who develop attitude problems need to take a long look at their way of working and make the necessary changes, rather than take this out on the clients.

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Nope. IME girls with better attitudes are more fun and that can be any age.

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Attitude isnt linked to age. period.

Attitude isnt linked to "tine in the biz" either. period.

now, In general, I tend to get better attitudes from 30+ Ladies, but that may be because I connect better with those in the first place.

But there have been surprisingly good exceptions at <25 yo.

What will spoit the attitude is a over-worked girl and this tends to happen more with agencies then with indies. but again: it may be my bias.

And there have been Exceptionally good Agy Ladies, even busy ones.

The really good ones do tend to end up indie at some time, once the've learned the rope. And a really good agent can accepts that without problems.

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Almost certainly not. Personality and experience have far more impact than age.

I am guessing it doesnt take long for the experience of working in this industry to have a major impact on the interaction with clients. Especially as has been mentioned when racking up numbers per day handing over usurious amounts to a "patron".

As a gross generalisation I would favour an independant with bundles of personality evident in their site and thanks to various forums evidenced in their interactions.

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Why would someone be pissed off at a booking enquiry :rolleyes:

Perhaps because after confirming she was free, the least he could have done was respond, if only to say, 'sorry, my plans have changed and I no longer require that booking'.

Imagine if he had replied and confirmed the booking but claire never replied to him again because she had booked in someone else. I'm sure he would be the first to complain and think her behaviour unprofessional.

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Perhaps because after confirming she was free, the least he could have done was respond, if only to say, 'sorry, my plans have changed and I no longer require that booking'..

Why :rolleyes:

It was an enquiry to see if she was available, no need to drag it into endless e mails, or then the girl will say "sending endless pointless e mails"

When you go shopping if you look at a product on offer (say a can of beans) and decide not to buy them, do you go to the customer service desk and tell them you decided on Spaghetti instead?

Perhaps he was doing a survey?

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I don't like younger working girls. I find that the older ones have a much more informed and happy take on the process.

Maybe it is because I am older and see these youngesters as way too young to be in this business.

But that's just me,

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you of course, if you can't handle the nature of the business then you are in the wrong industry, don''t blame others for your problems.

You really are a troll, aren't you? Has the fact that you're on pre-mod not made you realise your approach is a bit screwed?

He made an enquiry and not a booking, how does that make him a timewaster?

In the same way if someone rings a garage to ask if they have in stock a particular car and the dealer confirms he has the car in stock, the dealer then doesn't take the car off sale in the hope that the enquiry will proceed.

The reality is often a client will ask a number of girls about availability and then make his decision.

If you regard every enquiry as a booking then no wonder you have such a jaundiced view.

He asked me if I was free for a specific time, on that day, told me what he wanted and his hotel. I said yes, please call me to confirm at xx time. He said 'Will do, looking forward to meeting you.' That's more than a general enquiry. I WOULDN'T take another booking for the same time and then say to the first guy when he called to confirm 'sorry, got a better offer'.

Why would someone be pissed off at a booking enquiry :rolleyes:

See above. Now stop trolling me you boring little chap.

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Why :rolleyes:

It was an enquiry to see if she was available, no need to drag it into endless e mails, or then the girl will say "sending endless pointless e mails"

When you go shopping if you look at a product on offer (say a can of beans) and decide not to buy them, do you go to the customer service desk and tell them you decided on Spaghetti instead?

Perhaps he was doing a survey?

Its amazing how much you can learn about a punter from one post!

Punting is a transaction, true, but it is between two people with feelings rather than someone buying a tin of beans in a supermarket.

May I sugest that if this really is your attitude rather than just a wind-up or trolling post, you stick to a Jodrell rather than a human being next time you want sex?

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