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making an enquiry .... making a booking..

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Without getting involved in the ins and outs of the specific disagreement between Claire and Howard on what constitutes a booking, I feel much of the problem probably stems from the expectations of the lady.

The WG takes the trouble of putting photos and information in her profile or website and basically is of opinion that should give the guy enough material to make a decision whether or not to see her. Deep down therefore I wonder if the lady expects by and large, that when the guy makes contact with her by phone or email, he ought already to have made the decision in principle that he would like to make a booking and that his communication is merely to try and agree booking arrangements or to enquire about some special request.

If I am right , I wonder do many genuine punters find it sometimes uncomfortable contacting a WG to talk to her, to discuss information that they might like to obtain or to discuss requirements etc , before they are ready to decide whether or not to actually make a booking ? Do any of the guys here feel under some pressure to make that decision at an early stage in the communications and do they consider that a hindrance ? Do genuine punters believe that they will be considered ' timewasters ' if their decision not to book is not taken at a very early stage ?

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As posted many times by others, it is important to hear the other person's voice, and to gauge what they are like in ways that go beyond what you can glean from the website etc.

I don't normally book when I phone the first time. I usually check how much notice is required for an appointment, and ask about any stuff that isn't listed on their website, like what sort of cake do they like :eek:

If I like what I hear, then I'll usually follow that up with a second call to make an appointment, but depending on circumstances that will be anything from hours to months :rolleyes: later. Not every initial phone call is followed up with one to confirm a booking, maybe 50%, and that is for a multiplicity of reasons.

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As posted many times by others, it is important to hear the other person's voice, and to gauge what they are like in ways that go beyond what you can glean from the website etc.

I don't normally book when I phone the first time. I usually check how much notice is required for an appointment, and ask about any stuff that isn't listed on their website, like what sort of cake do they like :eek:

If I like what I hear, then I'll usually follow that up with a second call to make an appointment, but depending on circumstances that will be anything from hours to months :rolleyes: later. Not every initial phone call is followed up with one to confirm a booking, maybe 50%, and that is for a multiplicity of reasons.

I agree, and i cannot just rely on what a site says, too many times i have had the scenario where the enjoys list/services list is either a fabrication or not up to date. When i ring i require confirmation of cost, services offered and physical description especially size. As you say you can find out a lot by a phone call.

I feel no embarrassement about asking any of this and on the quite rare ocassion where the lady wont confirm these things i dont take it any further.:D

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Without getting involved in the ins and outs of the specific disagreement between Claire and Howard on what constitutes a booking, I feel much of the problem probably stems from the expectations of the lady.

The WG takes the trouble of putting photos and information in her profile or website and basically is of opinion that should give the guy enough material to make a decision whether or not to see her. Deep down therefore I wonder if the lady expects by and large, that when the guy makes contact with her by phone or email, he ought already to have made the decision in principle that he would like to make a booking and that his communication is merely to try and agree booking arrangements or to enquire about some special request.

If I am right , I wonder do many genuine punters find it sometimes uncomfortable contacting a WG to talk to her, to discuss information that they might like to obtain or to discuss requirements etc , before they are ready to decide whether or not to actually make a booking ? Do any of the guys here feel under some pressure to make that decision at an early stage in the communications and do they consider that a hindrance ? Do genuine punters believe that they will be considered ' timewasters ' if their decision not to book is not taken at a very early stage ?

Personally i require the information, why would i feel under pressure or uncomfortable in ringing to get it, if the lady doesnt wish to give it, thats up to her but she wont be getting my business. To be honest those that dont freely give information on the phone are those i have no wish to punt with, to me its a basic of punting and has been in my case for 26 years. Those that timewaste are a pain in the arse to genuine punters as well as the ladies, but they are an occupational hazard unfortunately.

Her site/profile is merely a guide in my eyes and remains that till i speak to her on the phone and get the information i require.:rolleyes:

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The thing that gets me when I have my agent hat on is when a guy makes a booking and I ask him to confirm on the day by a certain time and he doesn't.

If I have asked him to confirm by 5pm for a 7pm booking and he hasn't been in touch... do I turn down possible dates for the lady concerned or hold off and wait till 6pm?

As an agent my job is to get the level of bookings my client(the escort) is happy with.

An email 20 minutes before the actual appointment time is not acceptable and I am happy to admit the blokes who have booked, confirmed then cancelled by email 20 minutes beforehand are banned from my wee agency when they do the 3 strike and out. I give them 3 chances. I like to give benefit of the doubt.

As an agent and as a still working lady(despite what some people have heard) I like as much notice as possible for cancellations.

Things happen and crop up in life that no-one has any control over and sometimes I have had apologetic emails or calls from gentlemen explaining why they couldn't confirm before or at the agreed time.

Communication is king.

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In my view it is perfectly reasonable for a punter to make a tentative enquiry of a lady, but the lady is running a business, and she should not have to hold times open on the basis of such an enquiry, and risk losing other clients, until a booking is actually made.

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I agree, and i cannot just rely on what a site says, too many times i have had the scenario where the enjoys list/services list is either a fabrication or not up to date. When i ring i require confirmation of cost, services offered and physical description especially size. As you say you can find out a lot by a phone call.

I feel no embarrassement about asking any of this and on the quite rare ocassion where the lady wont confirm these things i dont take it any further.:eek:

Interesting, as I have read multiple posts from WGs here that they get very angry at being asked questions , the answers for which they will say are clearly set out on their websites ? Do you regularly get an ear- full ? :rolleyes:

Personally i require the information, why would i feel under pressure or uncomfortable in ringing to get it, if the lady doesnt wish to give it, thats up to her but she wont be getting my business. To be honest those that dont freely give information on the phone are those i have no wish to punt with, to me its a basic of punting and has been in my case for 26 years. Those that timewaste are a pain in the arse to genuine punters as well as the ladies, but they are an occupational hazard unfortunately.

Her site/profile is merely a guide in my eyes and remains that till i speak to her on the phone and get the information i require.:D

Funny , I have a natural distrust of the telephone. In the early stages of communication, things can go wrong on the phone. Many people are just bad on the telephone. My preference is to seek the info first by email and once generally satisfied, then make the call to just to check that everything is ok and to confirm booking details. That way everything is crystal clear and there is very little chance of an enquiry being incorrectly treated as a confirmed booking.

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The thing that gets me when I have my agent hat on is when a guy makes a booking and I ask him to confirm on the day by a certain time and he doesn't.

If I have asked him to confirm by 5pm for a 7pm booking and he hasn't been in touch... do I turn down possible dates for the lady concerned or hold off and wait till 6pm?

As an agent my job is to get the level of bookings my client(the escort) is happy with.

An email 20 minutes before the actual appointment time is not acceptable and I am happy to admit the blokes who have booked, confirmed then cancelled by email 20 minutes beforehand are banned from my wee agency when they do the 3 strike and out. I give them 3 chances. I like to give benefit of the doubt.

As an agent and as a still working lady(despite what some people have heard) I like as much notice as possible for cancellations.

Things happen and crop up in life that no-one has any control over and sometimes I have had apologetic emails or calls from gentlemen explaining why they couldn't confirm before or at the agreed time.

Communication is king.

I dont understand the difficulties that WGs or agencies seem to think they face here. Again I refer her to the majority of genuine punters who I presume are sane , rational people.

Guys understand its a business and therefore if the girl or receptionist makes it crystal clear, in a nice way, that unless full confirmation is received of the booking by a particular time then his 'option ' on his lady will expire after which he then has to take pot luck, he will fully accept this. He will not take offence to these rules being applied.

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I don't mind answer relevant questions at all. What I do mind is chaps vying for sexy chat, asking me if I have a boyfriend, can I take his 12" c*ck. Followed closely by those who ring and ask the same questions many, many times - and I mean "tell me all about yourself again so I can get a picture of you" surely a chap can remember a few things.

Apart from that I have no problem.

Regards booking I simply say "So would you like to make that time&day a booking?". Does bring out a few umms and errs but better to know where everyone stands.

Regards confirming I have given appointments away 20 minutes after confirmation time only to have original person then confirm. Also had chap arrive at the parking place having forgotten to confirm 4 hours earlier disappointed I'm not available. Another scenario is no confirmation then a cancellation text 4 hours later............surely they knew before then they weren't going to make it?Had a few issues with chaps confirming the night before then disappearing on the day. Afraid that lead to me insisting it must be on the day.

I'm currently employing the services of someone who runs their own business and appointment cancellation policy is 48 hours notice. Quite a lot of other types of 'service providers' operate that way too. I don't mind as long as I know as soon as possible but to cancel hours later, without confirming indicates the client thinks we would hold the appointment indefinitely.

So that's why I'm straight to the point, make things quite clear then everyone knows where they are.

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By the way sometimes when I've answered questions such as looks, what I offer, what I wear I get "Really?", "Is that true do you really do that/wear that?".

I am so tempted to say "No it's all a lie".

Best one is "Will you wear something nice and sexy?", "No I'll wear something really awful that doesn't make me look sexy at all" is what I'm tempted to answer. Followed closely by "Are you sexy", dur no that's why I do this very well.

Hee hee.

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I don't mind answering a few questions - but there have been times when I have slipped into a trap of chatting away merrily and then realising the breathing on the end of the line is becoming a little laboured.

Also, I do have a very busy 'ordinary' life and am often around other people.

So if you call for confirmation of things like smiths suggested, gents, try to remember it's sometimes easier for us to be able to answer just 'yes' or 'no' and it doesnt necessarily mean we're abrupt and unfriendly.

If I'm with friends, most of whom know what I do, I'd still rather it went 'So, you're a 46f'? 'Yes, that's right' - then 'Can you confirm your bust size for me please'? :rolleyes:

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I don't mind answering a few questions - but there have been times when I have slipped into a trap of chatting away merrily and then realising the breathing on the end of the line is becoming a little laboured.

Also, I do have a very busy 'ordinary' life and am often around other people.

So if you call for confirmation of things like smiths suggested, gents, try to remember it's sometimes easier for us to be able to answer just 'yes' or 'no' and it doesnt necessarily mean we're abrupt and unfriendly.

If I'm with friends, most of whom know what I do, I'd still rather it went 'So, you're a 46f'? 'Yes, that's right' - then 'Can you confirm your bust size for me please'? :rolleyes:

One of the first things I ask, is if the other person is ok to chat for a couple of mins. If it isn't a good time, I'd rather know, and am quite happy to call back later.

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But, Vicar, because my friends know what I do, if you asked me 'are you ok to talk' I'd say yes!

But then, as cumandgo said in his OP, I would have expected that the caller had already seen my details/site and therefore wouldn't need me to tell him my bust size, whether I like to suck cock etc etc. So when I say 'yes, I'm ok to chat', I'm thinking 'I'm ok to take appointments or confirm availability', not; 'I'm ok to discuss intimate things'.

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But, Vicar, because my friends know what I do, if you asked me 'are you ok to talk' I'd say yes!

But then, as cumandgo said in his OP, I would have expected that the caller had already seen my details/site and therefore wouldn't need me to tell him my bust size, whether I like to suck cock etc etc. So when I say 'yes, I'm ok to chat', I'm thinking 'I'm ok to take appointments or confirm availability', not; 'I'm ok to discuss intimate things'.

Yes , exactly my point. This is why I prefer to get details by email. The lady can answer the queries in her own time and not when under any pressure. It seems to make sense and is more relaxed all round although it can take a bit of effort on the part of the lady.

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I got caught out with a phone wanker the other day, first time in ages. I'm quite happy to answer questions, occasionally with a goodnaturedly resigned roll of the eyes - after all, my photos are updated regularly, as is my profile and all my feedback is excellent; I have no reason to falsify/exaggerate any information!

It can be annoying having to reiterate the answers but I do see it as part of the job. The only time it really annoys me is when I get caught out like I did the other day. I could actually hear the 'shlup-shlup' sound - he must have been using lube :rolleyes:

Now, I've just been interrupted writing this by a fairly lengthy phone call from a prospective client. I'm hoping he was genuine, I think he is, actually, lots of questions, but mostly about a specific type of roleplay - focussed, service-orientated questions which I have absolutely no problem answering, especially as the guy sounded genuinely nervous and a little apologetic about asking so many questions. Time will tell... :eek:

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I must confess I rarely switch on my Olivia phone anymore.. I prefer email and then will arrange to speak to client on day of appointment if we have not met before. Other than that people can book me through HOD in SK on my one working day there. It's a lot trickier for me to answer the phone these days due to other commitments but I can sneak a look at email pretty much anytime. At one time I took phone number of my old site due to constant abuse and other arseholes. Can't be doing with it. Anyone serious about booking me will email.

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All I can say again (seeing what total rubbish goes on in phone calls) the joys of not speaking to 99% who arrange to see me, knows no bounds ! :rolleyes:

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As posted many times by others, it is important to hear the other person's voice, and to gauge what they are like in ways that go beyond what you can glean from the website etc.

I don't normally book when I phone the first time. I usually check how much notice is required for an appointment, and ask about any stuff that isn't listed on their website, like what sort of cake do they like :eek:

If I like what I hear, then I'll usually follow that up with a second call to make an appointment, but depending on circumstances that will be anything from hours to months :rolleyes: later. Not every initial phone call is followed up with one to confirm a booking, maybe 50%, and that is for a multiplicity of reasons.

Chocolate eclairs please!

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Interesting, as I have read multiple posts from WGs here that they get very angry at being asked questions , the answers for which they will say are clearly set out on their websites ? Do you regularly get an ear- full ? :rolleyes:

Funny , I have a natural distrust of the telephone. In the early stages of communication, things can go wrong on the phone. Many people are just bad on the telephone. My preference is to seek the info first by email and once generally satisfied, then make the call to just to check that everything is ok and to confirm booking details. That way everything is crystal clear and there is very little chance of an enquiry being incorrectly treated as a confirmed booking.

I very rarely get an earful but if i get one it tells me this isnt the lady for me. The point is there are ways of asking. As i said previously due to being lied or misled in the past i require confirmation of services offered etc, completely up to the lady if she doesnt want to give me the information, i would and have simply gone elsewhere in that case.

Where you have a natural distrust of the phone i have a natural love of it, it has stood me well punting wise for 26 years, and it will continue to be my method of arranging punts. A lot of my punts are same day so a quick call to seek the confirmation, then make a booking and i am free to go about my business till i ring to confirm i am on my way to hers. Everything is crystal clear as long as she answers when i ring to say i am on my way. Simplicity is what i want. Many people are bad on the phone, luckily i am not one of them.:eek:

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One of the first things I ask, is if the other person is ok to chat for a couple of mins. If it isn't a good time, I'd rather know, and am quite happy to call back later.

Indeed Vicar. Its all common sense. If the lady is not free to speak i ring back, if this continues to be the case i go elsewhere.:rolleyes:

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But, Vicar, because my friends know what I do, if you asked me 'are you ok to talk' I'd say yes!

But then, as cumandgo said in his OP, I would have expected that the caller had already seen my details/site and therefore wouldn't need me to tell him my bust size, whether I like to suck cock etc etc. So when I say 'yes, I'm ok to chat', I'm thinking 'I'm ok to take appointments or confirm availability', not; 'I'm ok to discuss intimate things'.

What i dont understand about this post is from previous experience you surely must know some punters do want intimate details on the phone, it cant come as any surprise when they ask. Whether you give them is a matter for you of course.

To be honest if a WG has a phone number on her site/profile i will use it to politely get the information required, in my view i am saving myself time and the lady by doing this, because if she doesnt offer one of the services i require despite her site saying she does, which happens quite a bit in my experience, i can get off the phone and go elsewhere. Far better than making an appointment only to find she actually doesnt offer an essential service in which case i would walk and she would have lost out on my money, this is assuming it wasnt a planned scam of course.

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I can now well believe the crap the ladies have to put up with. Most of it seems to come from listing her phone number on the other site.

I've seen the non stop texts, phone calls and messages left. Unfortunately, I experienced all this recently while 'enjoying' a 2 hour incall with a new girl in Wales. She had only been on ** for 3 days and was aged just 19.

It went down as my worse ever punt due to her repeatedly reading her texts and answering her phone, despite me asking her to just leave it and get on with the job in hand.

Totally unprofessional behavior by the lady, but I was shocked by the sheer number of time-wasters she had to deal with.

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I can now well believe the crap the ladies have to put up with. Most of it seems to come from listing her phone number on the other site.

I've seen the non stop texts, phone calls and messages left. Unfortunately, I experienced all this recently while 'enjoying' a 2 hour incall with a new girl in Wales. She had only been on ** for 3 days and was aged just 19.

It went down as my worse ever punt due to her repeatedly reading her texts and answering her phone, despite me asking her to just leave it and get on with the job in hand.

Totally unprofessional behavior by the lady, but I was shocked by the sheer number of time-wasters she had to deal with.

During the actual punt the ladies phone should be off. I agree about timewasters these individuals are real idiots but there is no way to stop such people ringing. Ladies cant win because they get timewasters if they have the phone on and some lose business if its not on.:rolleyes:

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I must confess I rarely switch on my Olivia phone anymore.. I prefer email and then will arrange to speak to client on day of appointment if we have not met before. Other than that people can book me through HOD in SK on my one working day there. It's a lot trickier for me to answer the phone these days due to other commitments but I can sneak a look at email pretty much anytime. At one time I took phone number of my old site due to constant abuse and other arseholes. Can't be doing with it. Anyone serious about booking me will email.

Thinking about it I suppose you could conduct most if not all of an appointment by Email and not have to actually speak to the punter at all, apart from a couple of exceptions you could "converse" entirely by Email, I am thinking especially about the "doggy" position in particular, you could bend over in front of a chair with a laptop on the seat and the punter could balance his laptop on your back, missionary might be a bit tricky as would 69 for the person underneath, but I'm sure something could be worked out.

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Don't list my number, sane(ish) email first always required.

Due to my social bit, I get a lot of first time punters I think compared to others. Some apologise, going, "I don't know what to say, sorry, but I'm 42, divorced, and I like playing tennis", but that's okay, at least the tuning fork is going and we can get to the same level over the phone. A few times, people have been taken aback by my voice, clearly having just spent time looking at my arse shots and thinking I'm Gong-Li.

a) They must have been drunk when they stumbled across my site,

:rolleyes: That doesn't bode well for either of us,

c) If they develop the flu, no problem, apart from my regulars, everything is pencilled in. New people anyway, eeek.

Phone conversation is absolutely essential in my book. Both of us should be able to establish that it isn't a timewaster at the other end of the mobile, and as Claire said, a few people on a PAYG enquiring into your current underwear arrangements is to be expected - then the conversation goes nowhere and like wot she says, you hear the breathing.

Which is why, once again, I don't list my number.

In my book, polite, sane email, and something mildly amusing to show it isn't just a mass email you've been caught up in; they know who they are emailing. "Are you free tommorrow morning, Regards Tom". No thank you.

Will it involve donkeys? Do I need to polish my rubber dress?

"Fancy some fish on Wednesday?". Yes.

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