scott1979

Election Outcome/Escorting

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So election day is fast Approaching And the Economy in ruins. with the very real prospect that the nasty Conservative party will once again take power.

taxes and vat expected to go up. the threat of child tax credits being removed for middle income family's. basically all round hell perhaps for the next decade.

will this push more women into contemplating taking up escorting part time? will we begin to see the black Economy roar into life?

Will We See Prices Drop?

Will More Women Come Into The Business/ Housewives?

Will More Women Be Vulnerable To exploitation /drugs Violence.?

Love to Read Members Thoughts On the Subject

Thanks Scott1979. :D

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So election day is fast Approaching And the Economy in ruins. with the very real prospect that the nasty Conservative party will once again take power.

taxes and vat expected to go up. the threat of child tax credits being removed for middle income family's. basically all round hell perhaps for the next decade.

will this push more women into contemplating taking up escorting part time? will we begin to see the black Economy roar into life?

Will We See Prices Drop?

Will More Women Come Into The Business/ Housewives?

Will More Women Be Vulnerable To exploitation /drugs Violence.?

Love to Read Members Thoughts On the Subject

Thanks Scott1979. :D

Torys the nasty party? Hows about nasty buggers, Mandy, blears, smith et al

And why do families with a joint income over 50K need state handouts for the anklebiters anyway. Its just an electorial bribe. State aid should be restricted to those who are really in need.

And we need a govt with a strong will to bring the defecit under control to start reducing the appalling level of debt. On current trend, taking into account the liabilities of PFI, we could have a debt level of £90,000 per household by 2015.

That level of debt is unstainable. then we will see the IMF coming - then we will be fucked.

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Torys the nasty party? Hows about nasty buggers, Mandy, blears, smith et al

And why do families with a joint income over 50K need state handouts for the anklebiters anyway. Its just an electorial bribe. State aid should be restricted to those who are really in need.

And we need a govt with a strong will to bring the defecit under control to start reducing the appalling level of debt. On current trend, taking into account the liabilities of PFI, we could have a debt level of £90,000 per household by 2015.

That level of debt is unstainable. then we will see the IMF coming - then we will be fucked.

You stuck to the question almost aswell as a politician there Kinky. Maybe you should be standing for parliament and going on Newsnight to ignore Paxmans questions!

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So election day is fast Approaching And the Economy in ruins. with the very real prospect that the nasty Conservative party will once again take power.

taxes and vat expected to go up. the threat of child tax credits being removed for middle income family's. basically all round hell perhaps for the next decade.

will this push more women into contemplating taking up escorting part time? will we begin to see the black Economy roar into life?

Will We See Prices Drop?

Will More Women Come Into The Business/ Housewives?

Will More Women Be Vulnerable To exploitation /drugs Violence.?

Love to Read Members Thoughts On the Subject

Thanks Scott1979. :(

Probably worth searching Abortwank and it's related gay site next week for the phrase 'former Labour MP'! :D

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In the past I've voted, hopefully, for the gang I wanted to be in power.

Sadly this time I'm just voting to get the current lot out! Here I'll vote LibDem, because the excellent Tory candidate hasn't a cat's chance in hell of getting in.

Gordon/Tony and their (to me) incomprehensible devotion to the equality agenda, coupled with the Hattie/McShane axis sicken me, but it is when I look at the statute book that I get sick!

Tolley is now five times its pre-1997 size, and, just how many new criminal offences have they brought in?

No, I'm guiltily afraid that I'd even vote BNP if I had to to evict Gordon.

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So election day is fast Approaching And the Economy in ruins. with the very real prospect that the nasty Conservative party will once again take power.

taxes and vat expected to go up. the threat of child tax credits being removed for middle income family's. basically all round hell perhaps for the next decade.

will this push more women into contemplating taking up escorting part time? will we begin to see the black Economy roar into life?

Will We See Prices Drop?

Will More Women Come Into The Business/ Housewives?

Will More Women Be Vulnerable To exploitation /drugs Violence.?

Love to Read Members Thoughts On the Subject

Thanks Scott1979. :D

You seem to be salivating at the prospect of more women hitting on hard times, just so you can possibly pay a little less for your kicks. I must say I am very concerned at your third point about vulnerable women? Please tell me you don't mean it as it reads to me, that you would welcome it as it will lead to more ladies and lower prices?

Then again, on the other side of the coin, with the doom & gloom will be the pinch on disposable income, leading to less punting, leading to lots of ladies leaving the business.

Status Quo anyone?

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You seem to be salivating at the prospect of more women hitting on hard times, just so you can possibly pay a little less for your kicks. I must say I am very concerned at your third point about vulnerable women? Please tell me you don't mean it as it reads to me, that you would welcome it as it will lead to more ladies and lower prices?

Then again, on the other side of the coin, with the doom & gloom will be the pinch on disposable income, leading to less punting, leading to lots of ladies leaving the business.

Status Quo anyone?

I know they haven't had a hit for a while, but I'm not sure Rick and Francis would make much on the game.

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Torys the nasty party? Hows about nasty buggers, Mandy, blears, smith et al

Hazel Blears and Jacqui Smith nasty? A bit useless maybe (I'll give you Mandelson LOL)

I was at University in the early '80s when the Federation of Conservative Students members proudly wore badges declaring Hang Nelson Mandela - that's one of the reasons why to many people such as myself they will always be the Nasty Party, and will never get my vote :D

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I am old enough to remember the Tories in the 1980s and will never vote for them. If they get in I suspect that little will change for WGs/escorting or visiting parlours for a while, unless their immigration policies reduce the number of girls from non-EU countries.

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If the Tories do get in what we need to be aware of is the growing influence of Christian Evangelicals.

What do people imagine "free Schools" are about? It's exclusivity and brainwashing kids. Have a look at this page. A college whose purpose is to get right wing Christian enthusiasts into journalism and politics.

Do NOT for a moment think that a more rational approach to Prostitution, drugs, abortioon , women's or gay rights will flow from a Tory vote

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You seem to be salivating at the prospect of more women hitting on hard times, just so you can possibly pay a little less for your kicks. I must say I am very concerned at your third point about vulnerable women? Please tell me you don't mean it as it reads to me, that you would welcome it as it will lead to more ladies and lower prices?

Then again, on the other side of the coin, with the doom & gloom will be the pinch on disposable income, leading to less punting, leading to lots of ladies leaving the business.

Status Quo anyone?

I can assure you I am not salivating at the prospect of more vulnerable women coming on to the scene. :D

However a shortage of overall money in the economy may? inevitably lead to more women perhaps choosing a alternative Job to pay the Bills. I know when the Huge Gas Bill Hits the carpet they panic and there is nothing they wont do? to keep the gas on or pay there Bills.

I started this discussion Just to gage opinion on the Subject not to gloat or cheer. we are living in unprecedented times i happen to think its a discussion

Worth while having

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Hazel Blears and Jacqui Smith nasty? A bit useless maybe (I'll give you Mandelson LOL)

I was at University in the early '80s when the Federation of Conservative Students members proudly wore badges declaring Hang Nelson Mandela - that's one of the reasons why to many people such as myself they will always be the Nasty Party, and will never get my vote :D

So you are basing your voting decision on what some students did 30 years ago, in an organisation that was disbanded 20 years ago? That is about as logical as taking Militant Tendency as representative of Labour!

I'll never forgive Gordon Brown for wrecking the pensions schemes of millions of workers, that really was nasty.

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I am old enough to remember the Tories in the 1980s and will never vote for them. If they get in I suspect that little will change for WGs/escorting or visiting parlours for a while, unless their immigration policies reduce the number of girls from non-EU countries.

But only a short time before that we had the labour party / government of the late 1970s. Both have moved on from those times in my opinion. That's not to say that I think either is a great choice.

Trying to get this back on topic, I firmly believe that the election outcome itself will have no real bearing on WGs or punters. Getting rid of dear old HH will be a small consolation :D, but even that won't have any real impact. What she has already done won't be repealed, and what she planned to do may not have come to pass anyway.

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Im a self confessed conservative but Im also not entirely anti to the idea of a minority government. In real terms I feel that a hung parliment could be far more representative of the population but the idea that Gordon Brown could still be PM is enough to give me nightmares. Labour has destroyed our country, taken us into an illegal and pointless war, sold our gold and has saddled us with an epic amount of debt to name just a few.

Despite all of that I could live with labour, just as I have done to date if it werent for HH. Its her and her followers I wish to see removed from government as personally I dont think our industry will ever achieve any "real" change all the time she sits in parliment or has a say. The case of Claire Finch last week and a new government I feel gives us a serious opportunity to press the new government for change if we all come together to achieve it.

As far as more women into prostitution, I cant imagine any great increase. There have always been fluctuations in and out of our industry, I dont see this being any different now than it has been before. As far as women being prepared to do anything to pay the gas bill, I think thats a touch extreme and if that were the case far less homes would have been repossesed under our current government than were.

Just to clarify a point about family tax credits it was my impression tax credits were only to be scrapped for families earning over 50K unless your looking at lib dem where they plan to reduce the threshold to more like 40K. IMO families earning over 50K dont need tax credits and far more are set to benefit to the removal of the new national insurance increase planned by labour that will affect each and every single one of us. The only thing I dont get is why given the state of our national debt no one is planning to go a step further and scrap the child trust fund vouchers, not only are these not means tested but IMO all a £250 trust fund voucher will achieve for an 18year old when it reaches maturity is make some tiny contribution to thier piss up party. Do tax payers really need to be paying to create a trust fund for every child in the country?

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Whoever wins it is going to be like hiring an expensive escort. The govenment will take all your money and you are going to be well and truely screwed! The only choice you are going to get is ; do you want it easy or do you want it hard?

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If the Tories do get in what we need to be aware of is the growing influence of Christian Evangelicals.

What do people imagine "free Schools" are about? It's exclusivity and brainwashing kids. Have a look at this page. A college whose purpose is to get right wing Christian enthusiasts into journalism and politics.

Do NOT for a moment think that a more rational approach to Prostitution, drugs, abortioon , women's or gay rights will flow from a Tory vote

I agree. In my view whoever gets in is not going to have a more rational approach to prostitution.

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I'll never forgive Gordon Brown for wrecking the pensions schemes of millions of workers, that really was nasty.

I agree with Babar on that.

As for the OP's original question, yes lots of people are going to feel the pinch, there will be less money available for luxuries and even normal bills are going to be harder to pay, this may lead to some women, who are financialy desperate, to consider prostitution as a way out, but then again, how many punters are going to be able to afford to continue their hobby?

The laws of supply and demand dictate that a greater supply and reduced demand leads to lower prices, which on the face of it would be a good thing for us punters, but if a Service Provider has to reduce prices the level of service tends to go down too, so it is not really a win win situation.

*Hums the tune, "There may be trouble, ahead."*

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OK, I have no major party to vote for, an large array of independents, UKIP, Monster Raving Luny Party, Christians, BNP and the Speaker. I want the Speaker out as he was one of the few Conservatives to vote with Labour on the new sex laws. Si I have chosen UKIP as the most likely.

On Harlots Parlour this well written piece puts together who you should vote for, Liberal first, then Conservative. Use tactical voting use your head and not your heart. Voye for Change/

http://www.harlots-parlour.com/2010/05/vote-for-change.html

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In case it has escaped every ones attention there is a general election going on in the UK. It was decided this year to have a "Three leaders live debates" shown on national television and they had electrifying results. Both the Liberal Democrat Leader and his party were given for the first time as much publicity as the leaders of the Labour party and of the Conservative party. The British public if opinion polls are correct have responded with enthusiasm to a party that offers change. By supporting the Liberal Democrats the British electorate can deny the two main UK parties the chance to be elected with a majority of seats but no mandate from the British public. Neither the Labour nor the Conservative party like what has happened because potentially the stranglehold they have had on the British political system could now be at an end.

This general election is our big chance to end this monopoly of power of the two big UK parties. If the Liberal Democrats win sufficient seats to hold the balance of power they will demand a move to proportional representation. This will be a chance for future British governments to actually reflect the diverse political opinions within our country rather than the country having to endure a government that the majority of the population do not support.

The Labour government have governed Britain for thirteen years. They have involved Britain in an illegal war and created three thousand six hundred new laws many of which undermine the civil liberties for which Britain was famous. As well as an unjust war in Iraq and Afghanistan this labour government has also waged an equally unjust war against the sex industry and in particular against prostitutes. They have created new or amended old laws that have alienated and stigmatised an already unjustly criminalised sector of our community. This has been done despite the views of the British public which opinions polls repeatedly illustrate want prostitution legalised and regulated and prostitutes protected, not placed in greater danger. This election is our chance to show our anger at what they have done.

Of the three main British parties the Liberal Democrats have always shown themselves to be the most amenable to sex workers. They even have candidates standing in this election who either work in the sex industry or who have publicly supported sex workers in their struggle for rights. Of course not all Liberal Democrats are sex worker friendly but as a party they are by far our best chance for justice.

The Conservative party have not shown themselves to be particularly friendly to sex workers especially since David Cameron their leader increasingly allied himself to the traditional bogey man of British Politics; family values. Despite the back to basics family values ticket historically being the downfall of all parties this idealism of the Victorian/Edwardian family unit still sadly seems to be a popular choice for Conservative leaders especially; even if it does not reflect the reality of modern Britain. The conservatives however are divided. The libertarian wing of the Conservative party do support in general sex workers rights. It should also be pointed out that despite david Cameron's fondness for family values there has been no indication yet of any further oppressive polices from the Conservatives should they form the next government. I also think that we should remember that the Conservatives mostly argued against amendments concerning further criminalisng of prostitution contained in the 2009 policing and crime bill and that they voted against that bill. The conservatives however have not said anything publicly that would indicate that they would reverse the changes made in the policing and crime bill 2009 and therefore there must remain a large question mark over how supportive they would be to sex workers if they do form the new government. Therefore the Liberal Democrats would still be the more positive choice for sex workers.

As for the labour party; there are some labour candidates who support sex workers but they are very few; or at least there are too few within the Labour party prepared to stand up and say publicly that they abhor the unjust laws that persecute prostitutes and that they would reverse the new laws introduced by their party. The labour party has offered sex workers nothing in this campaign other than more unjust legislation should they cling to power.

I urge sex workers and our allies and our clients to join with everyone who believes in justice to either vote in this election for the Liberal Democrats or to vote tactically. Our objective has to be to deny the Labour party seats. If that does mean voting for a conservative candidate in a seat where it is a straight battle between Labour and Conservative then we must do so. Ideally however; I would urge that sex workers vote Liberal Democrat where ever possible. The Labour party deserves to be taught a lesson they will never forget. If we as sex workers loose this chance to vote for change then we may never have the opportunity again. There remains an outside chance that with out tactical voting our unfair parliamentary first past the post system may allow the Labour party to hold onto sufficient seats that will allow them to form a government. With sufficient seats but not the popular vote they could cling to power which will be a disaster for sex workers and for a Britain that is free and just. A liberal Britain that reflects the reality of our modern and forward looking society is possible but not under Labour or even under the Conservatives.

Vote Liberal Democrat and support sex workers and support change on Thursday.

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