Jimmyredcab

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I never ask girls for a lower rate ------ however I did recently conduct an experiment regarding mimimum fees.

I contacted five ladies who claim to have a one hour minimum and asked if they would consider offering a 30 minute session ---- none of the ladies use this site as far as I know.

One lady simply did not reply, another said that she would never accept a booking under one hour ------- the remaining three said that they would consider a 30 minute booking subject to certain conditions, one said I would have to phone a couple of hours in advance to see if she had any availability.

So what is my point, that is simple, if you don't ask you don't get. :rolleyes:

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So what is my point, that is simple, if you don't ask you don't get. :rolleyes:

I'll remember that next time I am in the back of your cab. :P

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In my opinion there is a world of difference between asking for a length of session not usually offered and asking for a reduction in price. I offer sessions right the way down to fifteen minutes so I laugh if anyone asks for shorter (and yes, I have been asked for five or ten minute sessions), but if I only advertised one hour plus I would not be offended to be asked for a shorter one as long as the price offered was in proportion (if a lady charges £100 for an hour and someone offers less than £50 for a half that is of course ridiculous).

Asking for a reduction in price is, in my opinion, a massive insult to the lady and I always take it as one. It is essentially saying "you are not worth what you value yourself at". It also seems very cheap (as when you look at the cost of seeing an escort, what is £10 or £20 either way?) and just needlessly petty to argue over the cost. If a lady is out of your price range, find someone else, and if you cannot afford even the inexpensive ladies then either find another hobby, or save up!

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I never ask girls for a lower rate ------ however I did recently conduct an experiment regarding mimimum fees.

I contacted five ladies who claim to have a one hour minimum and asked if they would consider offering a 30 minute session ---- none of the ladies use this site as far as I know.

One lady simply did not reply, another said that she would never accept a booking under one hour ------- the remaining three said that they would consider a 30 minute booking subject to certain conditions, one said I would have to phone a couple of hours in advance to see if she had any availability.

So what is my point, that is simple, if you don't ask you don't get. :rolleyes:

Interesting that.

I would negotiate cheaper rates for a longer session.... seems like JRC considers his own position before that of the wg.

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I'll remember that next time I am in the back of your cab. :P

Left wingers normally use public transport. :rolleyes:

Over the last 18 months it has become more acceptable to negotiate taxi fares, I am not talking about offering £4 for a £5 ride but on long distances many people now ask for a fixed price, we have to be flexible or we simply drive people into the clutches of the illegal mini-cabs.

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seems like JRC considers his own position before that of the wg.

Really ???

Surely if the girl is willing to accept a last minute half hour booking that is her choice, better to take £80 than watch Jeremy Kyle. :rolleyes:

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Really ???

Surely if the girl is willing to accept a last minute half hour booking that is her choice, better to take £80 than watch Jeremy Kyle. :rolleyes:

Oh come on Jimmy, be sensible!!!

Almost anything is better than watching Jeremy Kyle. :P

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Left wingers normally use public transport. :rolleyes:

Over the last 18 months it has become more acceptable to negotiate taxi fares, I am not talking about offering £4 for a £5 ride but on long distances many people now ask for a fixed price, we have to be flexible or we simply drive people into the clutches of the illegal mini-cabs.

But your example is more like the £5 taxi ride than the long distance trip. The latter would be more like an overnight. I suppose the equivalent of watching the lady sleep would be having to listen to you ranting on for the whole of a long journey. :P

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But your example is more like the £5 taxi ride than the long distance trip. The latter would be more like an overnight. I suppose the equivalent of watching the lady sleep would be having to listen to you ranting on for the whole of a long journey. :rolleyes:

Hahahaha perish the thought! :P

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But your example is more like the £5 taxi ride than the long distance trip.

You may think that £80 is comparable with spending £5, many people would disagree. :rolleyes:

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Hahahaha perish the thought! :P

Needless to say you were not one of the ladies I contacted. :rolleyes:

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You may think that £80 is comparable with spending £5, many people would disagree. :rolleyes:

But then no one would expect you to grasp the concept of relativity.... :P

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Needless to say you were not one of the ladies I contacted. :rolleyes:

'Tis indeed a blessing - for me! :P

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Interesting that.

I would negotiate cheaper rates for a longer session.... seems like JRC considers his own position before that of the wg.

What the fuck kind of comment is that? This is commerce, not charity. Is Jimmy suppose to consider the welfare of the free world BEFORE he enters into a transaction. I don't think so. Anyone with half a brain would get the best deal he can, whether buying bananas, concert tickets, or sex. OF COURSE Jimmy considers his own position before that of the WG. What on earth did you expect?

With that put to bed, I negotiate -- as is my right -- anytime I see a need to, mainly with an independent. With parlours, I find their rates eminently reasonable (60 quid for 30 minutes in my punting terrain) so I have no need to negotiate. My goal is not to get the lowest price I can...it's to punt affordably and if I can do that without haggling -- which in parlours I can -- then all to the good. However, if I want to see an independent and her price is one I consider unreasonable then I don't walk away...I very politely call her and ask if there is any flexibility. Why shouldn't I? And judging from the response to that enquiry, the ladies appear glad that I do.

For the record, I did this maybe half a dozen times last year and not once was the result an outright "no". One lady, who charges 140 an hour (a price that in my geography is simply more than I am willing to pay) and who doesn't offer half hour bookings offered me 30 minutes for 90 quid -- still a poor rate, so I said no. Three more dropped their hour price to 100 (from, variously, 120 and 130 respecitvely) with no ado whatsoever, and the other two asked me what I was willing to pay. When I responded 100 one immediately said yes and the other asked for 110 (both were priced 130.)

I don't see the above as any sort of victory on my part. I don't punt out of desperation, and I have a price I'm willing to pay. A girl will either accept it or she won't but no one should feel offended on either side; me for asking and her for responding as she sees fit. In reality, I think most independents work on a needs-must basis. I tend to punt during the daytimes on weekdays when I suspect things are quiet and I rather think an easy 100 is a better option than daytime TV for many. I'd probably not get the same response on a Friday or Saturday night.

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You may think that £80 is comparable with spending £5, many people would disagree. :rolleyes:
But then no one would expect you to grasp the concept of relativity.... :P

What she said....:)

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I have never attempted to negotiate ladies rates, and I don't think I ever would. I would regard it as rather impolite on my part; either I am willing to pay the rates the lady is quoting or I look elsewhere - much like buying any other pre-priced commodity. I'd be useless in a North African soukh, I'm crap at haggling! :rolleyes:

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I have never attempted to negotiate ladies rates, and I don't think I ever would. I would regard it as rather impolite on my part; either I am willing to pay the rates the lady is quoting or I look elsewhere - much like buying any other pre-priced commodity. I'd be useless in a North African soukh, I'm crap at haggling! :rolleyes:

You would be surprised where you can haggle. It can be done in most shops, travel agents, car hire firms and many more.

I dont get offended if somebody asks me for a discount but I only accept if somebody is going to have a really long booking and only if l think l am going to be really quiet.

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You would be surprised where you can haggle. It can be done in most shops, travel agents, car hire firms and many more.

I would not be surprised.

Even some of the top class London hotels will give a reduced rate for a last minute booking.

However this thread is really about being able to get half hour bookings and not trying to get a "cheap" rate.

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You would be surprised where you can haggle. It can be done in most shops, travel agents, car hire firms and many more.

I dont get offended if somebody asks me for a discount but I only accept if somebody is going to have a really long booking and only if l think l am going to be really quiet.

Somehow I can't imagine you being really quiet Lottie! :rolleyes:

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What the fuck kind of comment is that? This is commerce, not charity. Is Jimmy suppose to consider the welfare of the free world BEFORE he enters into a transaction.

Well actually, that's how ALL negotiations are supposed to begin........

"If I offered you this, would you do that?" and "My promise to you is that you and I will benefit from what I offer"

So how would a wg receive benefit from spending her time preparing herself for the occasion (bath bombs, makeup, perfume, condoms, hair-styling, refusing to answer her phone whilst she is making sure that she is properly prepared, warming the bed, changing the sheets/pillowcases, spraying the room with scent after the previous smelly old fat man has left, worrying that the client may not show-up, explaining to the Inland revenue that she sometimes offers her services for less than her normal rates/times etc etc.

I run my own business and the people I like least to walk through my doors are the ones that ask for a discount on a single basic purchase. I can usually recognise the type, they're the ones with the dirty curly toed shoes, shaved heads and holes in their trousers :rolleyes::)

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Well actually, that's how ALL negotiations are supposed to begin........

"If I offered you this, would you do that?" and "My promise to you is that you and I will benefit from what I offer"

So how would a wg receive benefit from spending her time preparing herself for the occasion (bath bombs, makeup, perfume, condoms, hair-styling, refusing to answer her phone whilst she is making sure that she is properly prepared)

You live in a dream world Sunshine, you really do. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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30 minute bookings are a weird one. In 2 years of massaging I have only performed maybe 3 30 minute massages, so sometimes I think it looks silly having them taking up room on my rates page, so I take them off... only to be asked some time in the future if I'd see a client for 30 minutes and what's my rate.

Far as I'm concerned a 30 minute session is still money in my pocket and if the fella understands the service I offer and sounds decent, I don't mind playing around with the length of time he books. If the fella sounds crude or some other way that I don't like, sorry but an hour is my minimum.

So to my point to JRC, I'd flatter yourself that it was you who got yourself the 30 minute booking, not the money you were offering.

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If the fella sounds crude or some other way that I don't like, sorry but an hour is my minimum.

What a refreshing attitude you have if I may say so Ma'am, why put up with a rushed 30 mins of dislike and crudity when you can take an hour to fully appreciate it. Respect.

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You live in a dream world Sunshine, you really do. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You've also maybe forgotten that a responsible wg will take out a good public liability insurance policy that may cost a considerable sum on a client to client basis.

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30mins would just be too short for the type of session I offer. I don't mind being asked though - nothing ventured; nothing gained - so it is down to me to explain how a 30min session would not be compatible with my approach.

It's the girl's choice.

Personally, I'd rather turn down ££ and watch the Jeremy Kyle :rolleyes: show if that means NOT 'devaluing' the quality of my services and saving myself for a proper, lengthy session that is all about build up and long lasting pleasure :P

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