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hi all i was talking to a WG she said charging less will earn you more you collect more regulars and get more tips. in expensive parlours it can be boring sitting

around or is it the parlour location that makes the difference?

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That is correct. I have charged a very low rate since I started doing this. However, now that I have my regulars I will soon put my rates up for new clients only. My regs will always get the old rate.

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That is correct. I have charged a very low rate since I started doing this. However, now that I have my regulars I will soon put my rates up for new clients only. My regs will always get the old rate.

Congrats on finally getting a website Lottie - although I'm not entirely sure about the Kick Ass look! :D

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This is what economists call price elasticity. More you charge the less customers you get.

They plot this on graphs.

But getting the slope of the graph wrong, you can lose money bigtime.

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A girl told me if i visited her twice, the price from then on would be 50% discount. i.e. a punt for 35£. I havent taken her up on the offer cos she wasnt my type, but prices will drop, of this I am certain.

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This is what economists call price elasticity. More you charge the less customers you get.

They plot this on graphs.

But getting the slope of the graph wrong, you can lose money bigtime.

Oh gawd, Kinks, watch it, you're in danger of rattling you-know-who's cab, sorry, cage. :D

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One girl who tells me quite a few private things explained that charging £120 an hour works best for her, she did try £150 for a few weeks but found she ended up taking less over the course of the week.

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hi all i was talking to a WG she said charging less will earn you more you collect more regulars and get more tips. in expensive parlours it can be boring sitting

around or is it the parlour location that makes the difference?

If we take your example to extremes... if they charged £1ph then they definitely wouldn't make more so there has to be an optimal price somewhere above this. This will be different depending on the girl, her reputation and location.

Also if the price gets too low then I become very suspicious, for example I wouldn't consider anyone in London charging £60ph... that really is too good to be true... so if you lowered the price too much, you would probably actually decrease the number of customers.

I can understand some of the high prices though... would you really rather work 4 hours per day for £480 if you could get away with working 2 hours for £400?

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Personally I have found that cheaper prices do not bring more customers, only the greater need for more customers.

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To make a significant difference the percentage change (increase) in demand must exceed the percentage change (decrease) in price (price elasticity of demand). But….

Let's say a girl sees, say, 10 clients per week at £150/hr (£1500 revenue) but decides to drop her price by 20% to £120/hr and this yields a 30% increase in clients. This amounts to a price elasticity of 1.5 which looks good at the outset. But 30% extra clients amounts to 13 over the week giving £1560 revenue - yes only £60 extra but having to entertain 3 more clients also probably incurring extra overheads in the process.

Of course this in only an example but it shows that it is not always a good idea to drop prices from her POV and perhaps why some pitch so high.

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I recently had an enquiry from ** about no sex, just OWO, deep throat and swallow, how much? I mailed back to say it it would be £80 for 30 minutes, £130 for a hour. I received back the following reply "thanks for replying but it's a bit too much for just oral and no sex, thanks anyway". Nice of him to reply and quite polite, however it got me thinking, I would have had to go to the apartment, get changed, (I presume he wouldn't have wanted to see me in jeans and T-shirt and I don't normally spend all day wandering around in lingerie). Then perform a sexual act that I think I excel at, I do not rush, in fact it's quite prolonged usually and it's something a lot of girlfriends, partners and wives won't do, (that's why so many men come to see us). I did consider mailing him back and suggesting he buy his wife a pair of shoes, one to see how much that cost him and two to see if it got him the oral he wanted;)

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One girl who tells me quite a few private things explained that charging £120 an hour works best for her, she did try £150 for a few weeks but found she ended up taking less over the course of the week.

I saw a girl at BE4U last year and she put her price up from £150 to £200. I didn't book her but when it went down to £150 again, a few days later, I booked her. I asked her about this and she said it wasn't worth it because she got a lot less interest.

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Aren't those things charged as 'extras' in an awful lot of places, and often considered more intimate than "just" sex?

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Aren't those things charged as 'extras' in an awful lot of places, and often considered more intimate than "just" sex?

That's what I thought, there's no waiting around with a bunch of other men, no one waiting for me to say next, no one able to hear any 'noises' or hearing 'noises' from other rooms!

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I don't see many clients a week but I charge/earn enough to keep me happy, I have a nice lifestyle and plenty of free time. I have chosen to have a very nice flat in a reasonably cheap part of London and an ongoing arrangement with a lovely Central in call location for those who find it more convenient. I love being well rested, really enjoy the encounters that I do have and I am picky about who I meet. Charging more works well for me! :D

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To make a significant difference the percentage change (increase) in demand must exceed the percentage change (decrease) in price (price elasticity of demand). But….

Let’s say a girl sees, say, 10 clients per week at £150/hr (£1500 revenue) but decides to drop her price by 20% to £120/hr and this yields a 30% increase in clients. This amounts to a price elasticity of 1.5 which looks good at the outset. But 30% extra clients amounts to 13 over the week giving £1560 revenue – yes only £60 extra but having to entertain 3 more clients also probably incurring extra overheads in the process.

Of course this in only an example but it shows that it is not always a good idea to drop prices from her POV and perhaps why some pitch so high.

Now let me give you another example.

10 clients at £150 an hour = £1500

17 clients at £120 an hour = £2040

The lady would be £540 better off at the end of the week. :D

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I saw a girl at BE4U last year and she put her price up from £150 to £200. I didn't book her but when it went down to £150 again, a few days later, I booked her. I asked her about this and she said it wasn't worth it because she got a lot less interest.

You can't blame her for trying it on but it proves there are far less clients willing to pay £200 an hour, in London there is simply too much competition.

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The calculations don't work like that in this business. It all depends on the girl and her marketing. Not even the level of service or good looks. Bit of luck too, I guess.

I know some pretty average looking girl who regularly does a few jobs a day at £500 an hour and far too many others perhaps much prettier are not busy at 150.

And it's all ups and downs anyway at any price.

The girl at Be4u maybe should try more expensive agencies - established as expensive, not try to extract more money from the same circle of customers.

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Charging less - you will see more clients / bums on seats as such or cocks in mouth is probably more appropriate words :D

So If you are good Escort then the more clients that you see, the more money you will make of course and you have a far better chance of getting them to come back and see you again and earning more money from them in the long term

If you see 5 a day then you have 5 chances of getting them back to see you again but if you only see 1 a day then you only have once chance Plus 1 is to close to none So there is more room for error (just my thoughts)

Its a simple sales - the more people that you speak to and fuck the more chances you have of getting them back in your bed :D at some point in the future

but if you a lady who dose not want to see that many clients then maybe charging higher will work - but it depends on other factors such as services looks marketing reviews and where you located and what the market around you charges

personally i dont look at what i make a day but what i make each week or month 9 times out of 10 it always end up the same even amount give or take the odd bit even if i have a quiet days or a super busy days but the price is down to what the lady wants to charge and what she wants to earn

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I recently had an enquiry from ** about no sex, just OWO, deep throat and swallow, how much? I mailed back to say it it would be £80 for 30 minutes, £130 for a hour. I received back the following reply "thanks for replying but it's a bit too much for just oral and no sex, thanks anyway". Nice of him to reply and quite polite, however it got me thinking, I would have had to go to the apartment, get changed, (I presume he wouldn't have wanted to see me in jeans and T-shirt and I don't normally spend all day wandering around in lingerie). Then perform a sexual act that I think I excel at, I do not rush, in fact it's quite prolonged usually and it's something a lot of girlfriends, partners and wives won't do, (that's why so many men come to see us). I did consider mailing him back and suggesting he buy his wife a pair of shoes, one to see how much that cost him and two to see if it got him the oral he wanted;)

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me - as you say, you'd have to make exactly the same preparations as for any other appointment, and it was his choice not to include full sex.

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Now let me give you another example.

10 clients at £150 an hour = £1500

17 clients at £120 an hour = £2040

The lady would be £540 better off at the end of the week. :D

Yes Jim I agree entirely but this represents a 36% increase in income for 70% increase in clients which, if the lady is not bothered about, is fine for her and (presumably) better value for the punter provided the level of service does not suffer due to the extra turnover.:D

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When Mrs Divine first opened in MK the standard rate was £80 for half hour and £150 for the hour. This was in 2002, clients did not ask for OWO, Anal or for any particular extras, if they received them it was accepted as a bonus.

With the internet explosion and sites such as PN coming into the punting domain such services were highlighted and duly requested. We have always refrained from menus and extras as we felt it gave too much opportunity for a client to deceived or manipulated when he is thinking with his penis.

This strategy served us well in MK and also in London although clients in the city always presume there is a catch when they ask our prices.

So in summary best to keep it simple, never cheapen yourself by trading at the base rate and remember once you've dropped your prices it is impossible in our opinion to raise them once again. Your clients just will not accept it.

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Ok, well as a one off in coventry i did an announcement for one hour for 100 as i had on place left to fill, i did, but only got that one call which produced a booking. I am usually very busy there and charge 140 ph. A few weeks later i thought to myself, mmm, so i put on all my announcements, edited my tours etc that it was 1hr 100, i was busy. I have occasionally put this offer on again and it has rarely been taken up much at all to be honest. I just leave my prices alone now. I was doing a special offer with tammy there for 180 but this is a huge 100 discount so im slowly edging that up to full price too.

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Ok, well as a one off in coventry i did an announcement for one hour for 100 as i had on place left to fill, i did, but only got that one call which produced a booking. I am usually very busy there and charge 140 ph. A few weeks later i thought to myself, mmm, so i put on all my announcements, edited my tours etc that it was 1hr 100, i was busy. I have occasionally put this offer on again and it has rarely been taken up much at all to be honest. I just leave my prices alone now. I was doing a special offer with tammy there for 180 but this is a huge 100 discount so im slowly edging that up to full price too.

I've fiddled with prices too like this and found it didn't really make a difference at all - the only thing it did do was attract a few clients who were very difficult (wanted war and peace via email regards their demands, then tried their very best to not leave after time). I've found the level I'm happy at and it seems to work.

On the subject of pricing got a text last night offering me £40 for a half hour outcall across town. This was around 11pm and I decided to go to bed instead! Good try at negotiating I suppose.

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Take the hypothetical situation where a lady charge £150 an hour and sees four clients a day ( assuming she's that popular, or wants to see four plus customers a day ). She decides to discount her rates. Would a prospective punter be influenced by an offer to reduce the rate to, say, £140? Probably not. How low would she need to go for it to be meaningful? Maybe as low as £ 120.

She was earning £600 a day from four customers. Now, she has to service in excess of five to earn more than that.

Supply and demand is all very well if there is a huge pool of prospective customers, but how many in reality will find out about the offer, and would they have been customers in any event at the original rate, or is she going to have to work in excess of 25% harder for the same, or little more, return.

It sounds good in theory to earn more from charging less, but, in practice, it probably doesn't work very well.

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