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More evidence that the Swedish government is Anti-Sex?

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I found this link about a guy who owns a major porn company in Sweden who is getting a huge tax bill which he claims is because the fact that he is in pornography and doing everything legal which they can't stand (considering that nearly all the anti-porn groups around the world see porn as prositution too). It seems that the Swedish government is anti-sexual freedom so it looks like they may be doing everything to do with sexual freedom and making those illegal too. I thought I should put it here cause since our moronic government is trying to follow the Swedish model for prositution, I won't be surprised they will do the same thing to the porn companies in the UK too. Anyway here is the link.

http://www.thelocal.se/17634/20090217/

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I can't see how it is any different to current tax rules over here. If you do not declare your income then the tax office, if it catches up with you will estimate how much they think you have earned over the missing years. Unless you can show different or have kept records then you are billed, and are liable for the tax on that estimated amount.

Yes, he possibly is being targeted since he is working in a high profile business but if he has been NOT paying tax on the proceeds of his business (sex related or not), then he is commiting a crime and having been caught must now pay whatever he owes.

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Just read the article again, seems the main argument is about whether or not he is due to pay tax in Sweden since he moved the company abroad.

So, it's mainly about tax loopholes etc something our own government seems to be hotting up on itself.

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Ironically, when you consider the traditional view of Sweden as a sexually liberated nation, there does appear to be an anti-sex thing going on there.

In another thread about the abuse of statistics (and the difficulties of collecting accurate data in this industry), when I was expressing doubt about the accuracy of the Swedish data that Jacqui Smith was using to bolster her arguments for criminalising us, Pia pointed out that

A) Results from Sweden aren't in yet.....

and

:D The leader of the stats team has complained that she is under government pressure to say that the policy has worked regardless of the actual results

Looks like Sweden also has a bunch of man-hating harpies dead set on making life tough for punters and quite happy to lie, cheat and deceive in the process, without a care for all the additional trafficked girls who are going to result from the process.

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The government view and general attitude of the people of sweden is entirely different, so the view that sweden is sexually liberal and the government tough stance on pronography & prostitution isn't necesserily contradictory.

My friend travels in and out of lots of scandinavian countries, he goes there mainly for the carefree relaxed and friendly people there, as well as the fact that sex isn't a big thing over there as much as it is in other parts of the world.

He's told me stories [and pictures to prove], that he'd literally stop girls on the street to get directions to places or recommendations for good clubs in the area, get into conversation, and go back to the girls place for sex and cofee :D

Obviously it's not as simple as that, but you get the idea.

As it happens I'm going to oslo (norway) 6am tomorrow, and stockholm in mid march, on march 3rd im going to be in madrid.

Can't wait

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Ironically, when you consider the traditional view of Sweden as a sexually liberated nation, there does appear to be an anti-sex thing going on there.

In another thread about the abuse of statistics (and the difficulties of collecting accurate data in this industry), when I was expressing doubt about the accuracy of the Swedish data that Jacqui Smith was using to bolster her arguments for criminalising us, Pia pointed out that

A) Results from Sweden aren't in yet.....

and

:D The leader of the stats team has complained that she is under government pressure to say that the policy has worked regardless of the actual results

Looks like Sweden also has a bunch of man-hating harpies dead set on making life tough for punters and quite happy to lie, cheat and deceive in the process, without a care for all the additional trafficked girls who are going to result from the process.

I recommend reading the following 2 articles by professor Don Kulick (an American who has lived 25 years in Sweden)

http://myweb.dal.ca/mgoodyea/Documents/Sweden/400,000%20Swedish%20perverts%20Kulick%20GLQ%2011(2)%202005%20205-35.pdf

http://myweb.dal.ca/mgoodyea/Documents/Sweden/Sex%20in%20the%20new%20Europe%20Kulick%20Anthr%20Theor%202003%203(2)%20199.pdf

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Thank you Starman, a fascinating insight. A few observations on each.

The 400,000 Swedish Perverts

1. It confirms the prediction made many times here that streetwalking will continue but be far more dangerous for the girls than hitherto, and I'm sure we all agree it cannot be particularly safe now.

2. The research for the key text typologizing sex buyers was based on 40 subjects, an average of 8 per group. The minimum subject group for a doctoral survey, never mind a peer-reviewed and published paper, would be 150, so the 'research' is as flimsy as that done by the Poppy Project.

(I don't suppose we can complain when we had that idiot who published research linking the MMR jab to autism, based on 12 subjects - the result of which is that we now have measles epidemics all over the shop)

3. The whole paper indicates that we are at the top of a slippery slope where criminalisation of punters will lead to their pathologisation and demonisation. This is an attempt by the sex-trade haters to find a pseudo-philosophical basis for their opposition.

4. He has contextualised the whole process within a framework of more women in power without inferring a direct causation. The same thing is happening here and we end up using phrases like man-hater which implies that only women could drive such daft laws. I am as guilty as anyone of using the phrase feminazi when cross. So I am glad that the balance is redressed by his acknowledgements where 8 of the 11 key sources named are women.

Sex in the New Europe

1. Problems of obtaining convictions under the Swedish Law are the reason Jacqui Smith et al are pushing for Strict Liability.

2. It's clear that the law has had a disastrous effect on sex-workers off as well as on the street.

It is also clear that there has been no appreciable drop in demand for trade other than temporarily on the street, although this is in the absence of Strict Liability.

Also clear that the legislators were fully aware that the trade would be driven underground, with the concomitant increase in trafficking, but that they didn't care as long as a 'message was sent' - sound familiar?

3. Sweden doesn't understand how organised crime works. The more you criminalise something, as long as there is going to be a market in it regardless, the greater the opportunity for organised crime to infiltrate. Complexity and geography are no barriers.

They actually thought that by joining the EC they would be flooded by thousands of foreign girls all being run by Mafia-type operations. The truth is it will happen, but much more slowly and more insidiously, and because of their laws not because of their membership of the EC.

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They actually thought that by joining the EC they would be flooded by thousands of foreign girls all being run by Mafia-type operations. The truth is it will happen, but much more slowly and more insidiously, and because of their laws not because of their membership of the EC

Sweden has been a member of the EU for 14 years now, yet surely the anti-prostitution drive has not been going on half that long?

I think it much more likely that the Social Democrats (i.e. major left-wing party in Sweden) has simply been taken over by feminazis. After all, it's happened everywhere else in Europe, why not there?

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Sweden has been a member of the EU for 14 years now, yet surely the anti-prostitution drive has not been going on half that long?

I think it much more likely that the Social Democrats (i.e. major left-wing party in Sweden) has simply been taken over by feminazis. After all, it's happened everywhere else in Europe, why not there?

The papers linked by Starman explain in detail

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This article/case is still only about a man who may have not been declaring taxable income in the correct places, something that would be clamped down on in any country. Not necessarily related to the fact he is in the sex business.

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Berth Milton is your average coke snorting jetset sleazeball. With millions offshore, close to no decalred income, and more parking ticket for his Porches than I'll make in a lifetime.

The fact that he makes porn is his one redeeming trait.

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