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I once saw a lass who I knew was quite new to the world of escorting and I although I didn't worry about this too much, it also became apparent that she was inexperienced full stop. It's not that she wasn't willing, she just wasn't very good at anything and wasn't able to do much without instruction or encouragement.

It does seem a very strange career choice if you don't have a decent level of sexual experience but I found myself with a mixture of feelings - annoyance that she was providing that she wasn't up to and I also admit I felt quite guilty, although I'm not sure why.

Any similar experiences?

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I once saw a lass who I knew was quite new to the world of escorting and I although I didn't worry about this too much, it also became apparent that she was inexperienced full stop. It's not that she wasn't willing, she just wasn't very good at anything and wasn't able to do much without instruction or encouragement.

It does seem a very strange career choice if you don't have a decent level of sexual experience but I found myself with a mixture of feelings - annoyance that she was providing that she wasn't up to and I also admit I felt quite guilty, although I'm not sure why.

Any similar experiences?

Nothing similar, but I can kind of understand it. Looking at some of the profiles on The Other Site, I get the impression there are a few lonely young girls (some possibly with body confidence issues) who have posted on there because they've not had much luck with boys - something which, in my schooldays, I could identify with from the other side of the fence - and they feel it is a way to get some sex and maybe even to meet someone. Seeing the profiles I interpret in that way always makes me feel rather sad for them.

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Oh well we have all got to start somewhere :(

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I'm innocent :(

Erm, I don't think 'inniocent' and 'inexperienced' are quite the same thing Kate! :(

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I'm innocent :D

Looking at the main photo on your Adultwork profile Kate leads me to believe that this might be a little white lie :(:(!

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lol you guys gnit picking again :D ok I'm inexperienced :( I've just been in training for a very long time :(

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Yes, been there, posted a fr but that has long since been deleted.

Lady was very keen and really pleasant, but told me much, too much about her personal life, had lots of personal pictures in the room.

Ripped two condoms trying to put them on me and then told me she only had a pack of three in the house (I put the last one on myself.) She also told me she was happy with anal, till we tried and she shot across the room!

Still, as has been said, you have to start somewhere!

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I once saw a lass who I knew was quite new to the world of escorting and I although I didn't worry about this too much, it also became apparent that she was inexperienced full stop. It's not that she wasn't willing, she just wasn't very good at anything and wasn't able to do much without instruction or encouragement.

It does seem a very strange career choice if you don't have a decent level of sexual experience but I found myself with a mixture of feelings - annoyance that she was providing that she wasn't up to and I also admit I felt quite guilty, although I'm not sure why.

Any similar experiences?

I don't think that has anything to do with experience. And more to do with personality & attitude. If you have a "can do / want to learn" attitude, you're winning all the way.

I started not all that long after losing my virginity (then again I was a late starter and already in my 20's) and had extremely little sexual experience. But once I started escorting, I somehow raked in many regulars (some of whom I still have to this day) from the very start. In fact, 2 of the first 5.

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In the 36 years Ive been punting , I well recollect one young lady i saw (as an outcall to my place)who had clearly not much idea

She was a fairly immature 19 yrs old

after some time with her doing usual stuff, I told her I like to perform analingus and then give A with a condom on

anyway she said she didnt allow analingus and she refused to believe it was a fairly usual request

In all sorts of ways she was naive and a week later her advert dissappeared from the local paper

About a year later I was mowing my front lawn and she walked by my house and she spoke but she was very embarrased and clearly being a WG was NOT for her.

I did offer her £100 to come in for a swift session but she said she didnt do it anymore

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A lot of girls come in the industry because they want money (sorry to burst the bubble).

They've had sex, they have perhaps had sex with people they don't like, they've even had sex for some form of gain be it new shoes, career, pay the rent as a favour or whatever. So in there minds they think they can do it.

Unfortunately there are so so many girls like this, sure they're working of their own accord but they're actually shit at the job. It's like any job, some people take it seriously and put a lot of effort into it and others don't.

What always amazes me is the lack of effort some girls put into their appearance and body. If you set your stall out as a BBW, or accept your size 12 then fine. However a lot of girls sell themselves as a 'perfect 10' then we watch them eating pizza, mcdonalds and kfc for every meal, smoking and generally having no pride in their appearance which is what they are selling.

A taxi driver will clean, hoover, service and care for his taxi as it's what pays his money but some of these girls struggle with putting a brush through their hair, brushing their teeth, visiting a gym or perhaps just being 'honest' about what they are 'selling'.

Sadly the English girls are sometimes the worse but this is a reflection of our society. The Czech girls at HoD like Sasha and Petra would be in the gym everyday but that was the way they were raised where physical activity was promoted.

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I've got to admit I don't have gym membership. Partly due to previously having 3 jobs and just not seeming to have time and partly due to before the escorting not really being able to afford it. Funnily enough I have in the last few days been making enquiries with the local gym to see if can get some kind of 'flexi' deal where I can opt out during periods where I know I won't be able to use it (ie on tour for most of August) and there does seem to be an option, but you have to pay by direct debit, which is a shame as I wanted to pay with cash.

Hopefully will get something sorted this week though. Some of us do care about our appearance, the way we present ourselves and even down to the condoms we use.

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There are some younger local girls started working on my patch and I have had clients call me to say that they are almost never picking up the phone even though their advert says they are available.

Plus they have already been given negative feedback almost immediately for a few no shows.

I think older and experienced is best.

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There are some younger local girls started working on my patch and I have had clients call me to say that they are almost never picking up the phone even l

That's probably because they are busy.

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That's probably because they are busy.

How does that explain the no shows and very little feedback?

I think maybe they in some cases they try it and wont progress and really waste a punters time.

Men that I know have called them so many times and in the end rely on us old faithfuls lol

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Just as some blokes will always be sexual incompetents, so will some girls, you know you are hopleless if you dont get any repeat business. If thats the case, move on become a lapdancer if you can, and wish to remain in the sex business. Many are called, but few are chosen.

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A while back I saw a young african lady a few times. One day she sent me a text saying that her friend had come to visit her and asked if I would like to see the friend.

I popped round and met the friend who looked nice and I agreed to half an hour with her. It soon became apparent that although she was sexually experienced she obviously wasn't used to the WG scenario. She was even worried about taking off her bra.

She was warm and friendly and very willing but didn't know how to put the condom on me. I did it in the end and we had a good time. There was no mention of money so I said 'I usually pay xxx £50. Is that OK?' She seemed happy with that.

After I left I texted the african girl and asked about her friend. Apparently, the friend isn't a WG but just needed a bit of cash and half an hour with me was better than meeting a complete stranger.

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Sadly the English girls are sometimes the worse but this is a reflection of our society. The Czech girls at HoD like Sasha and Petra would be in the gym everyday but that was the way they were raised where physical activity was promoted.

Ah, that must be the Sokol influence. Nice to see it's still alive and well.

Long live the Czechs (WGs).

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I once saw a lass who I knew was quite new to the world of escorting and I although I didn't worry about this too much, it also became apparent that she was inexperienced full stop. It's not that she wasn't willing, she just wasn't very good at anything and wasn't able to do much without instruction or encouragement.

It does seem a very strange career choice if you don't have a decent level of sexual experience but I found myself with a mixture of feelings - annoyance that she was providing that she wasn't up to and I also admit I felt quite guilty, although I'm not sure why.

Any similar experiences?

Very lately. Also an unlikely one, because the woman in it had got into the WG business only at the expensive celebrity end of her local scale. She hadn't needed much practice to do it because she has a combination of beauty and sexual effect that works for itself and brings in as many rich customers as she wants. I didn't need to guess it because she told me.

She said too that she's never learned much about sex, and it isn't something that means much to her. She started at about 12-13 by finding she was attractive to dirty old men. ("You wouldn't believe some of the habits they had. No, don't ask.") Later, dirty old and not so old women. ("I went along with that for a while. No real difference.") Finally the rich customers. What they see in her, plus their imaginations, is enough to keep them happy. She says it isn't the local punter tradition or general male tradition to pay much attention to considering the WG or woman. (Relax, chaps. This isn't England.) They just consider themselves.

She's quite innocent about it all and seems to look at it with no more interest than a laboratory experiment. Partly because of that but mainly because of the rest of her personality, I can't help liking her a lot. She's hard to describe. I'd call her a pure gold digger with standards and principles. That project isn't guaranteed to succeed but she may get lucky. She'll deserve it if she does.

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Very lately. Also an unlikely one, because the woman in it had got into the WG business only at the expensive celebrity end of her local scale. She hadn't needed much practice to do it because she has a combination of beauty and sexual effect that works for itself and brings in as many rich customers as she wants. I didn't need to guess it because she told me.

She said too that she's never learned much about sex, and it isn't something that means much to her. She started at about 12-13 by finding she was attractive to dirty old men. ("You wouldn't believe some of the habits they had. No, don't ask.") Later, dirty old and not so old women. ("I went along with that for a while. No real difference.") Finally the rich customers. What they see in her, plus their imaginations, is enough to keep them happy. She says it isn't the local punter tradition or general male tradition to pay much attention to considering the WG or woman. (Relax, chaps. This isn't England.) They just consider themselves.

She's quite innocent about it all and seems to look at it with no more interest than a laboratory experiment. Partly because of that but mainly because of the rest of her personality, I can't help liking her a lot. She's hard to describe. I'd call her a pure gold digger with standards and principles. That project isn't guaranteed to succeed but she may get lucky. She'll deserve it if she does.

I'd hate to even think what could bring a mere child so far as to develop such feelings. Talk about irreparable damage. Truly sad.

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Very lately. Also an unlikely one, because the woman in it had got into the WG business only at the expensive celebrity end of her local scale. She hadn't needed much practice to do it because she has a combination of beauty and sexual effect that works for itself and brings in as many rich customers as she wants. I didn't need to guess it because she told me.

She said too that she's never learned much about sex, and it isn't something that means much to her. She started at about 12-13 by finding she was attractive to dirty old men. ("You wouldn't believe some of the habits they had. No, don't ask.") Later, dirty old and not so old women. ("I went along with that for a while. No real difference.") Finally the rich customers. What they see in her, plus their imaginations, is enough to keep them happy. She says it isn't the local punter tradition or general male tradition to pay much attention to considering the WG or woman. (Relax, chaps. This isn't England.) They just consider themselves.

She's quite innocent about it all and seems to look at it with no more interest than a laboratory experiment. Partly because of that but mainly because of the rest of her personality, I can't help liking her a lot. She's hard to describe. I'd call her a pure gold digger with standards and principles. That project isn't guaranteed to succeed but she may get lucky. She'll deserve it if she does.

The more I think about this, the more disturbing I find this. And what I find even more strange is that you comment on it almost nonchalantly!

I wonder how fathers or mothers (on this board) of 12 year old little girls would feel if they knew their child felt like this. By finding out "she was attractive to dirty old men". I find that deeply sad, disgusting and rather shocking.

And then you go on to say "She's quite innocent about it all" - how wrong you are. Far far from it. For somehow to have these almost dissociative feelings about sex (combined with the rest of the story), something very disturbing must have happened in the very early childhood.

If I were in your shoes, I would not continue to see her.

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I think that a lot of young girls think it is money for old rope, anyone can shag so why not get paid for it? They do not see that when we are paying £100 plus we expect more than a lie back and think of England experience. And when the reality of the event kicks in they have nothing to fall back on but a few skills learned in knee tremblers round the back of the pub

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I think that a lot of young girls think it is money for old rope, anyone can shag so why not get paid for it? They do not see that when we are paying £100 plus we expect more than a lie back and think of England experience. And when the reality of the event kicks in they have nothing to fall back on but a few skills learned in knee tremblers round the back of the pub

This is an illusion shared by many in the Grauniad anti-prostitution brigade. If a working girl contributes to a thread, and dares to talk about her work seriously, they try to put her down with the line that 'anyone can do it'. Anyone probably can do it the way they do it, I suppose.

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There are some excellent contributions to this thread - I wuld fel very unhappy about the young lady mentioned in Unperson's comment too - se sounds deeply, sadly damaged.

I was interested also in DivineMK's comments, many of them are spot on, but I would raise issue with the following, which seems to be suggesting that BBWs or size 12 women don't put any effort into their appearance.

What always amazes me is the lack of effort some girls put into their appearance and body. If you set your stall out as a BBW, or accept your size 12 then fine. However a lot of girls sell themselves as a 'perfect 10' then we watch them eating pizza, mcdonalds and kfc for every meal, smoking and generally having no pride in their appearance which is what they are selling.

A taxi driver will clean, hoover, service and care for his taxi as it's what pays his money but some of these girls struggle with putting a brush through their hair, brushing their teeth, visiting a gym or perhaps just being 'honest' about what they are 'selling'.

I'd just like to say this is not true. I am at the gym several times a week, I am much fitter than you'd expect and incredibly more flexible than many ladies half my size. I also take care of my skin and eat healthily. I am slowly losing a little weight, but not too much as some of my gentlemen would be terribly disappointed!!

I'm probably reading too much into this and I doubt that Divine meant it to be interpreted in this manner and in all honesty, I think she's spot on with her comments about some of the ladies at the less salubrious end of the spectrum. I think it's more to do with a desire to not be doing the job than inexperience, although they sometimes go hand in hand.

Hopefully the ladies that shouldn't be doing the job stay inexperienced at it and retire early - for their own peace of mind.

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The more I think about this, the more disturbing I find this. And what I find even more strange is that you comment on it almost nonchalantly!

I wonder how fathers or mothers (on this board) of 12 year old little girls would feel if they knew their child felt like this. By finding out "she was attractive to dirty old men". I find that deeply sad, disgusting and rather shocking.

And then you go on to say "She's quite innocent about it all" - how wrong you are. Far far from it. For somehow to have these almost dissociative feelings about sex (combined with the rest of the story), something very disturbing must have happened in the very early childhood.

I've put everything exactly as nonchalantly as she did.

When she started talking about it I made the same assumption you've made. I said something indirect about that and told her she was welcome to change the subject if she preferred to. She didn't. In fact she gave me a look somewhere between "You kidding?" and "You crazy?", then kept on going. You can refuse to believe her if that makes you happy, but she said she'd just never had any interest in sex and that nobody had ever scared her into not being interested. She'd never been able to figure out why other people thought differently (she put me through quite an examination about that, not something to expect on yer average punt) and why she always attracted plenty of attention, but in the end she decided that if the attention was there she might as well make it work for her.

If there's a lesson in there, it's that you can find people who are very different from what the Guardian says they have to be.

If I were in your shoes, I would not continue to see her.

I agree because being treated like a laboratory rabbit was interesting but not my punting style. I'd only pay for that privilege once. I disagree because I expect to be a combined guide and guidebook when she visits my part of the world in October. No punt, but a pleasure. For a treat I may introduce her to a friend who's more or less where she might expect to be 57 years from now if her gold digging project succeeds. Possibly she'll be able to pick up some tips, though my friend got to where she is without ever being a WG as far as I know.

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