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Something for all Antivirus junkies !

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Not sure I understand all this "Cloud" stuff yet but I have been reading some interesting stuff, Panda are offering cloud based antivirus and now "Clam" after reading some stuff in Webuser I down loaded it to give it a go! Its not a resource hogger, your PC does not get slowed down while scanning, its all done "online" no need to have the latest updates because the cloud has them all! if someone in your cloud (303'000) has a problem, the solution is available to everyone. Scan times, depends on whats on your HD but the shortest time I have seen is 19 seconds and the longest 1 minute 38. Best feature of all AV compatability.....Iike many people I'm a junky for AV products, done a lot of Beta testing in the past for Panda, Mcfee etc you name it I've got the Tshirt but Clam is different, it can be installed as a stand alone AV, or now this is the selling point(its free by the way!) its compatable with at least all the leading brands of other AV so you can have two installed at the same time, it even tells you what its name is. Along with regular scans of my AV I also use other online scans as a back up, Panda, Trend etc, but this Clam product is going to shake up the industry.

Its an easy download and it comes set up by default, they is one option to tick if you want an extra feature and a simple user interface. I like this a lot.

http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/about/win32/

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I rather like clam. Everything you said JK.

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Opened this thread as it seemed it might be my answer. But I think not.

My brother has a bad infection on his PC. It has disabled regular AV and put up a spurious AV instead; it also is preventing opening of various websites and programmes.

I am looking for a trustworthy Portable AV prog that I can update on my PC then install on a stick and run with his machine in Safe Mode

Any ideas??

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Opened this thread as it seemed it might be my answer. But I think not.

My brother has a bad infection on his PC. It has disabled regular AV and put up a spurious AV instead; it also is preventing opening of various websites and programmes.

I am looking for a trustworthy Portable AV prog that I can update on my PC then install on a stick and run with his machine in Safe Mode

Any ideas??

I'm no expert have never contracted a virus, I'm not sure a Stick would work I think the rougue software would get around it, dont forget it still lurkes in System restore....If you have a spare HD replace your corrupt one, install OS and drivers get online and update OS and update AV then fit old HD and switch it to "Slave" then run AV scan on this HD, depends on the quality of your AV it may destroy it or just put it into quarenten(spel) if thats the cash google its name and find the best way to delete it. I recon this should work, What are you running?

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Opened this thread as it seemed it might be my answer. But I think not.

My brother has a bad infection on his PC. It has disabled regular AV and put up a spurious AV instead; it also is preventing opening of various websites and programmes.

I am looking for a trustworthy Portable AV prog that I can update on my PC then install on a stick and run with his machine in Safe Mode

Any ideas??

Ok, Been there and had to do that 2 or 3 times over the past 12 months. My standard options for dealing with malware, which can be really pernicious, is as follows.

1) Worth trying Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - not bad as a first line of defence.

2) Reinstall the AV tool from scratch and scan immediately - sometimes this gets it.

3) McAfee produce a stand alone McAfee Labs Stinger tool which you can download for free (if I remember) which is also worth a try. Designed to get at current malware/virus nasty's.

If all this doesn't work the two standard 'free' tools are as follows - but note that full scans can take several hours.

4) MalwareBytes Anti-Malware free version (download here: http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html?part=dl-10804572&subj=dl&tag=button.) This is pretty good.

5) A-Squared Free - now published by Emisoft as Emisoft A-Squared Free - and more a push to buy the full product. (Hence haven't provided a link as more likely to move)

The first three are relatively quick to test whether they will work - 4) and 5) are for when nothing else works - as I inidcated the scans are pretty thorough and need careful attention. For example one (I can't remember which) will identify all your browser cookies as potential risks.

In my experience its trial and error - but not impossible.

The 'final solution' is to wipe the system partition and do a clean O/S installation. But not for the faint hearted and unwise if you have not made regular system and data backups and have ones which pre-date the infection.

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Ok, Been there and had to do that 2 or 3 times over the past 12 months. My standard options for dealing with malware, which can be really pernicious, is as follows.

1) Worth trying Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - not bad as a first line of defence.

2) Reinstall the AV tool from scratch and scan immediately - sometimes this gets it.

3) McAfee produce a stand alone McAfee Labs Stinger tool which you can download for free (if I remember) which is also worth a try. Designed to get at current malware/virus nasty's.

If all this doesn't work the two standard 'free' tools are as follows - but note that full scans can take several hours.

4) MalwareBytes Anti-Malware free version (download here: http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html?part=dl-10804572&subj=dl&tag=button.) This is pretty good.

5) A-Squared Free - now published by Emisoft as Emisoft A-Squared Free - and more a push to buy the full product. (Hence haven't provided a link as more likely to move)

The first three are relatively quick to test whether they will work - 4) and 5) are for when nothing else works - as I inidcated the scans are pretty thorough and need careful attention. For example one (I can't remember which) will identify all your browser cookies as potential risks.

In my experience its trial and error - but not impossible.

The 'final solution' is to wipe the system partition and do a clean O/S installation. But not for the faint hearted and unwise if you have not made regular system and data backups and have ones which pre-date the infection.

you also used to be able to get a boot disk from McAfee which would run a virus scan before the OS was running, and therefore hopefully before the malware was running. You may be able to download something onto a CD and then boot with that CD - worth checking out. I'll have a look around myself and if I find anything I'll stick it back up here.

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you also used to be able to get a boot disk from McAfee which would run a virus scan before the OS was running, and therefore hopefully before the malware was running. You may be able to download something onto a CD and then boot with that CD - worth checking out. I'll have a look around myself and if I find anything I'll stick it back up here.

you could try this- does basically what I described above by the sounds of it.

http://www.free-av.com/en/products/12/avira_antivir_rescue_system.html

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you also used to be able to get a boot disk from McAfee which would run a virus scan before the OS was running, and therefore hopefully before the malware was running. You may be able to download something onto a CD and then boot with that CD - worth checking out. I'll have a look around myself and if I find anything I'll stick it back up here.

If you've got a little technical know how (well can follow instructions TBH), there's no need for a boot disk from McAfee, just use VistaPE:

http://www.vistape.net/

(VistaPE is invaluable and everyone should have a copy of it, either on CD/DVD or memory stick. No need to have Vista installed either.)

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Hi AKA nosromo (with that moniker you should have seen it coming! ;))

Yup, malware is getting increasingly clever at inserting itself early into boot sequences and blocking AV programmes from launching - particularly the better known programmes such as McAfee and Norton. But some general points about the attack.

1) The programmes I suggested are all designed to run on infected machines and in my experience have never failed to run once installed. If its there and not extremely new and exotic, they'll get it and kill it (or tell you what you need to do).

2) Running programmes from a bootable disk may help - but not all programmes are as good with malware as they are with viruses and other PC security. For example, McAfee (which I use) has a hit rate below 90% on malaware in a recent PC Pro test. So if your brother's AV allowed the malware on to the PC, running it from a CD is unlikely to stop it any better. Malabytes and A Sqared Free are very good at their speciality - digging malware out. The last time we had an infection on a work machine these free programmes were what out paid computer support experts used when everything else failed.

3) The PE family of programmes (stands for Pre-installed Environment) are good at creating boot disks. But you do need to know what you are doing eg a) make sure you have a programme which is correct for the windows version (some do not yet support Windows 7 for example); :eek: If your brother's PC hardware has any non standard Windows drivers (HP & Dell often have some specialised ones for their hidden rescue partitions) they need to be added to the CD before burning; and c) you still have to choose a programme which you are going to use to kill the malware (see above).

Finally happy hunting and good luck

Bacchus is right in that the instructions are good - but expect to screw up 2-3 CDs on the way! (Well I did!). But please be careful if you go this route - you can finish up with having to take my last route on new install because you have damaged the Operating System in the process. For example, its likely that all the drive letters will change and it can be confusing if you don't know the machine in the first place. (I began in the days of DOS before Windows, so am not to thrown by command lines and partitioning disks - but even so I've made mistakes in trying to rescue machines.)

Happy hunting and good luck!

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3) The PE family of programmes (stands for Pre-installed Environment) are good at creating boot disks. But you do need to know what you are doing eg a) make sure you have a programme which is correct for the windows version (some do not yet support Windows 7 for example); ;) If your brother's PC hardware has any non standard Windows drivers (HP & Dell often have some specialised ones for their hidden rescue partitions) they need to be added to the CD before burning; and c) you still have to choose a programme which you are going to use to kill the malware (see above).

Finally happy hunting and good luck

Bacchus is right in that the instructions are good - but expect to screw up 2-3 CDs on the way! (Well I did!). But please be careful if you go this route - you can finish up with having to take my last route on new install because you have damaged the Operating System in the process. For example, its likely that all the drive letters will change and it can be confusing if you don't know the machine in the first place. (I began in the days of DOS before Windows, so am not to thrown by command lines and partitioning disks - but even so I've made mistakes in trying to rescue machines.)

Happy hunting and good luck!

A couple of observations:

  1. VistaPE is compatible with Windows 7.
  2. You can avoid trashing CDs (or DVDs) by creating a bootable USB flash disk.

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