AngelCasey

Why is it so hard to believe??

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I joined this forum a few months ago now thanks to a lovely fellow escort friend of mine.

I have to say generally I find the board quite refreshing and far more open than other boards I have been on previously. That said I am confused. When I joined most people on this board had no clue who I was as I didn't have any field reports on this site. I used to have reviews on this site many moons ago when i was based in London but they were all removed for safety reasons a long time ago. Long story but anyway as I started to get the hang of the board I saw alot of people saying the same things along the lines of they wouldn't see somebody with no field reports, sometimes if the pictures are really nice it tends to make people think your make believe/fake and more to this effect...... I even had a couple of PM's saying I looked too good to be true........ So it got me thinking maybe if I had a few field reports on here people would then believe i was real :D ha ha. As it happens I've since seen a few of the lovely members on here and had already been seeing some silent members on here but didn't know as I never ask these kinds of questions. I have worked in the same way for years now, periodically offering discounts etc but its never been so scrutinized...................

Sometimes i offer discounts sometimes i make it a condition that if you receive a discount then i would like a field report. This is for no other reason than I find people do think my pictures are fake and it lets them know its not just an empty profile sitting on the web and that people do actually see me, i am real but............... Why do peole find it so hard to believe that just because my rates are higher like some other ladies i know its absurd we would offer discounts when we can clearly get work at the higher rate?? Could it not just be as plain and simple as I felt like it? or im confident enough to know that it doesn't affect my business when I put my rates back up as i have been around for a long time now? or that I know there is a whole market of people I don't cater for so sometimes like to make that possible? Also that i make enough money to support my life if I decide to have a specials day/week/month its just because I can so therefore I am?

Does there have to be an alterior motive?????? And am I not free to do as I please and not actually HAVE to HAVE a reason for it?? Do you question when your favourite shop has it's summer sale....... No you go in and buy everything you've been looking at all season cause now its half price HAHA (well i know i do).

Like everything in life times have changed in escorting and things used to be alot different. I understand that things have changed dramatically since I started and even still see some of the people i did away back in the beginning of my escorting career. Although the circumstances are different in some ways now. No I cant charge what I used to but so what I still enjoy what i do and will continue to do this job until such times as I DONT WANT TO.

I know it might well sound like im ranting but im genuinely interested in the answers. I just wanted to see what everybody thinks as I find alot of things written on here are so conflicting and some are even rude. How can you dismiss people so much that you dont even know? I dont think of any women on here as any different from myself and have respect for each and every one of them. I like some of the guys banter and would also be repectful to anybody on here until such times as i feel your below the belt and not in the way id like you to be LOL

Happy Debating hugs Casey xx

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Ladies can charge whatever they think they are worth ------- the problem is that if punters don't agree then the phone will not ring.

Within the M25 there is a huge amount of competition, price yourself too high and the gents will simply go elsewhere.

Good luck to girls who charge £250 an hour, at least they will not have to meet me. :D;)

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Casey

This is the way of punternet and our line of work. I've learned you cannot please everyone so find what works for you and if it really does work then stick with it.

In this business there are so many variables it can really start to get you in a right mix-up. Regards pricing yes some are very suspicious when discounts or offers are made, whilst others won't pay over a certain price. Whatever level you price at there will be some who will be put off. Same with photos, showing or not showing certain things, profiles stating or not stating things, being in a busy location, being in a quiet location, being discrete, offering shorter or longer appointments or not.

I used to get rather hung up wanting to fit into everyone's slot then found it's impossible.

All I can say is firstly take everything with a pinch of salt, give things a go but find somewhere that feels comfortable for you and attracts the clients you are comfy with.

Seemples.

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Hi Casey,

As far as I'm concerned I would be suspicious of prices 'Yo Yo ing' I much prefer stability.

Also If I was thinking of booking you when you were on one of your offer periods, but then upped your fee at the time I wanted to book, then I wouldn't go ahead on principle.

I know you can do as you please, just giving you the benefit of my opinion.

All the best.

S.L.

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I wouldnt worry about it to much Casey, like you said times have changed and if you want to offer discounts then do so, I'm sure the guys wouldnt mind anyway :D. Like any other business you have to price accordingly to make a decent living.

Shelly

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Hi Casey,

As far as I'm concerned I would be suspicious of prices 'Yo Yo ing' I much prefer stability.

Also If I was thinking of booking you when you were on one of your offer periods, but then upped your fee at the time I wanted to book, then I wouldn't go ahead on principle.

I know you can do as you please, just giving you the benefit of my opinion.

All the best.

S.L.

So are you saying if a lady runs a special offer she shouldn't end that offer?

Just not sure what you mean, but I do understand regards yo-yoing as I've had comments about that from clients so tend to avoid altering things now.

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I'm saying she can do what she want's.

Just that I personally would never book when she reverts to her higher rate, in my opinion if she can afford to charge the lower rate yet still cover her costs and make a reasonable profit then the higher rate is a piss take.

On the whole I don't like offers, I always feel cheated when prices go back up.

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Hey Peeps,

Thanks for the responses...... Im not worried if i came across like that in my post ignore me :D, im just genuinely interested in what everybody else thinks. I am happy with how i work and so are the people that see me buut there is so much chat about it on here i thought id ask, lol

As for discounted offers i do have some come and go there but thats at my discretion and those that take the time to book me find these things out.

Im by no means trying to please everybody, it would be a never ending journey and i quite like the one im on haha. Thanks for the comments so far and i cant wait to see the rest

Hugs Casey xx

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I wouldnt worry about it to much Casey, like you said times have changed and if you want to offer discounts then do so, I'm sure the guys wouldnt mind anyway :D. Like any other business you have to price accordingly to make a decent living.

Shelly

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Actually there was a lady called Clarissa who used to post on these boards and I think had the right attitude when she said that once she had the fee she demanded, she was comfortable about offering her body to and having sex with perfect strangers.

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If there's someone I'd like to see, and can afford to do so, I'll go along with the stated fee. If there's a 'special offer' so much the better. It might be a decider in whether I request an longer meeting, or an overnight. But I am fed up to the back teeth with criticisms of fee levels, especially from folk who may well never have had any wish to see the lady in question. It's all down to the individual and what she needs/wants/is happy with.

(However, I don't really appreciate reading that 'special offers' are running for long periods (like months), as that makes me wonder why the basic fee level hasn't been adjusted instead. It just makes me think twice about whatever else the SP is saying.)

Sure, there are ladies who charge far more than I would consider it sensible for me to pay - but there are also many people around who have a far greater disposable income than I have. I wouldn't dream of having a lunch costing £300 a head however good the food, because as a smoker I wouldn't enjoy the full benefit of the experience. My choice. The restaurant may well still have a waiting list.

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Some service providers give discounts for repeat business within a defined period, such as normal price £150, return within 7 days then discount price £120.

Or an established client discount, where someone who has booked you 5 or 10 times then gets a reduced rate.

My personal preference is for extra time rather than reduced price.

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So are you saying if a lady runs a special offer she shouldn't end that offer?

Just not sure what you mean, but I do understand regards yo-yoing as I've had comments about that from clients so tend to avoid altering things now.

Blimey, it sometimes sounds on here like punters monior the rise and fall of ladies rates like watching the Stock Market: "Buy Strawberry 1 hour, sell Angel Casey overnight, Indian Delight holding steady..." :D

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I joined this forum a few months ago now thanks to a lovely fellow escort friend of mine.

I have to say generally I find the board quite refreshing and far more open than other boards I have been on previously. That said I am confused. When I joined most people on this board had no clue who I was as I didn't have any field reports on this site. I used to have reviews on this site many moons ago when i was based in London but they were all removed for safety reasons a long time ago. Long story but anyway as I started to get the hang of the board I saw alot of people saying the same things along the lines of they wouldn't see somebody with no field reports, sometimes if the pictures are really nice it tends to make people think your make believe/fake and more to this effect...... I even had a couple of PM's saying I looked too good to be true........ So it got me thinking maybe if I had a few field reports on here people would then believe i was real :D ha ha. As it happens I've since seen a few of the lovely members on here and had already been seeing some silent members on here but didn't know as I never ask these kinds of questions. I have worked in the same way for years now, periodically offering discounts etc but its never been so scrutinized...................

Sometimes i offer discounts sometimes i make it a condition that if you receive a discount then i would like a field report. This is for no other reason than I find people do think my pictures are fake and it lets them know its not just an empty profile sitting on the web and that people do actually see me, i am real but............... Why do peole find it so hard to believe that just because my rates are higher like some other ladies i know its absurd we would offer discounts when we can clearly get work at the higher rate?? 1. Could it not just be as plain and simple as I felt like it? or im confident enough to know that it doesn't affect my business when I put my rates back up as i have been around for a long time now? or that I know there is a whole market of people I don't cater for so sometimes like to make that possible? Also that i make enough money to support my life if I decide to have a specials day/week/month its just because I can so therefore I am?

Does there have to be an alterior motive?????? And am I not free to do as I please and not actually HAVE to HAVE a reason for it?? 2. Do you question when your favourite shop has it's summer sale....... No you go in and buy everything you've been looking at all season cause now its half price HAHA (well i know i do).

Like everything in life times have changed in escorting and things used to be alot different. I understand that things have changed dramatically since I started and even still see some of the people i did away back in the beginning of my escorting career. Although the circumstances are different in some ways now. No I cant charge what I used to but so what I still enjoy what i do and will continue to do this job until such times as I DONT WANT TO.

I know it might well sound like im ranting but im genuinely interested in the answers. I just wanted to see what everybody thinks as I find alot of things written on here are so conflicting and some are even rude. How can you dismiss people so much that you dont even know? I dont think of any women on here as any different from myself and have respect for each and every one of them. I like some of the guys banter and would also be repectful to anybody on here until such times as i feel your below the belt and not in the way id like you to be LOL

Happy Debating hugs Casey xx

1. It could and in your case I believe that it probably is but many people are cynical and suspicious at apparently motiveless charity.

2. Shops do this because they are ridding themselves of last season's stock. WGs do it because business is flat - typically.

Offering discounts to regular clients is common but should be kept between you and the client or else they'll all want some and what starts out as a privilege soon becomes a right.

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1. It could and in your case I believe that it probably is but many people are cynical and suspicious at apparently motiveless charity.

2. Shops do this because they are ridding themselves of last season's stock. WGs do it because business is flat - typically.

Offering discounts to regular clients is common but should be kept between you and the client or else they'll all want some and what starts out as a privilege soon becomes a right.

I think this attitude is overly cynical. (But then I would say that, wouldn't I. :D )

I don't agree about keeping the discount strictly between the WG and the client instead of, as Casey has done, advertising short-term discounts. There may well be a lady I've looked at but feel her rates are out of my range; perhaps she would be willing to offer me a discount, but I'm not big on negotiating rates, and unless she publicly announces such discounts I'm not going to know of the possibility, so I may miss out on a good experience and the lady may miss out on my business. I see absolutely no problem with Casey choosing to conduct her business this way, and I don't really understand all the suspicion that's being cast in her direction.

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Hi Casey..fellow glasgow lady

I have had and have the same things you have described, when I first joined punternet some were quite hostile towards me until they realised I really was real :D I still have people asking if I really look like my pics or is it really me in the pics I reply no its my male assistant who has exceptionally nice breasts!:rolleyes:. I think I have just come to a point where I think...you can't please all of the people all of the time and thats ok just take it on the chin and don't let it ruin your day. Big hugs and if ever need anything mail me.

Love Lou xxxx

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I don't agree about keeping the discount strictly between the WG and the client instead of, as Casey has done, advertising short-term discounts.

If the lady chooses to advertise a discount, then there is no reason to keep it private, but if she offers a regular client a discount that is not advertised as generally available, it would be quite wrong for him to go public, not to mention shooting himself in the foot as the discount wouldn't last long if he did so.

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If the lady chooses to advertise a discount, then there is no reason to keep it private, but if she offers a regular client a discount that is not advertised as generally available, it would be quite wrong for him to go public, not to mention shooting himself in the foot as the discount wouldn't last long if he did so.

No arguments there, but that is not the context in which my comment was made.

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I think this attitude is overly cynical. (But then I would say that, wouldn't I. ;)

I don't agree about keeping the discount strictly between the WG and the client instead of, as Casey has done, advertising short-term discounts. There may well be a lady I've looked at but feel her rates are out of my range; perhaps she would be willing to offer me a discount, but I'm not big on negotiating rates, and unless she publicly announces such discounts I'm not going to know of the possibility, so I may miss out on a good experience and the lady may miss out on my business. I see absolutely no problem with Casey choosing to conduct her business this way, and I don't really understand all the suspicion that's being cast in her direction.

Tony what you so expediently refer to as an attitude is nothing more than my opinion. There is a difference. And I thought I was one of the cynical ones.:)

plus, if I really wanted to see a particular girl I doubt that I would wait for the sales;)

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See Casey this Is where your going wrong, If you made your photos look like your a minger, then punters would believe you were real lol, :);)

There are a lot of punters and Escorts who don't know about PN, I'm sure there are a lot of good ladies who don't have a single FR.

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Don't you worry yourself so, Casey.

I have been new on certain forums and felt put upon too. One, I was routinely slaughtered for ages, but I fought them off. And won! I wasn't having that!

It's quite scary huh?

You will be fine, you stand your ground lass, be yourself, cos yourself is good enough.

I thought your post seemed genuine and that gets you a long way, being genuine.

:)

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Tony what you so expediently refer to as an attitude is nothing more than my opinion. There is a difference. And I thought I was one of the cynical ones.:)

plus, if I really wanted to see a particular girl I doubt that I would wait for the sales;)

I'm not entirely clear what the difference is between a person's attitude on an issue and their opinion on it (or am I bring expedient referring to this as an 'issue' - perhaps it's a 'matter'?)

As to your second point, neither might I if I had access to unlimited funds.

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Casey I've had a look at your website (which is unusual for me as I don't normal look at other girls) and I think it looks great!

This is a business and we're working through a recession. As a business woman you have a choice. You can sit pretty and hope that you make exactly the same money you made before, or you can assess the situation and work with it. Common sense says that in times that are hard something has got to give and as we (as escorts) are an added pleasure to life, but not a basic life need we are likely to be one of the options put on hold until things improve. By offering a discount or any other insentive that will bring you back into reach for an otherwise good and reliable client, you are not lowering your standards, or showing signs of desperation, but showing that you understand and are adaptable to a given situation.

This is general by the way, and applies to all escorts. Again of course it does depend on your situation. If you are only able to take one booking a week and you are getting a dozen potential bookings for that slot a week, then my business head would say put the price up, which if nothing else will stop all the calls and reduce it to 3 or 4, which is all I need to guarantee that time is taken, but if you are working every day and used to working 4 slots and now only getting 2, well, what do you do? Doing nothing really would be the wrong answer.

I think sometimes the punters forget that we are business women and are attempting to run a successful business. Well maintained websites, beautifull pictures and rates are all part of the package that we provide before they walk through that door. The actual booking is a small part of our job, although of course a very important one as no one wants bad feed back.

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I'm not entirely clear what the difference is between a person's attitude on an issue and their opinion on it (or am I bring expedient referring to this as an 'issue' - perhaps it's a 'matter'?)

As to your second point, neither might I if I had access to unlimited funds.

Let us just say one is more driven by emotion based on previous experience, the other, objectivity. I'll let you decide which is which.:)

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hi i feel if you were too offer a disconted time/period then maybe punters who thought you were out off there price range may well try your services.there for you may well gain a new punter who you wouldnt have got b4.at the end of the day its a business so you do what u need 2 too generate business.me personally i do have a set price level,but have tried wgs at higher rates without any great difference.anyway good luck.

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Casey I've had a look at your website (which is unusual for me as I don't normal look at other girls) and I think it looks great!

I think sometimes the punters forget that we are business women and are attempting to run a successful business. Well maintained websites, beautifull pictures and rates are all part of the package that we provide before they walk through that door. The actual booking is a small part of our job, although of course a very important one as no one wants bad feed back.

Thanks re my website :o your right we are business women and bad feedback is hopefully not on the agenda if we treat our clients right and take care of ourselves

C xx

Don't you worry yourself so, Casey.

I have been new on certain forums and felt put upon too. One, I was routinely slaughtered for ages, but I fought them off. And won! I wasn't having that!

It's quite scary huh?

You will be fine, you stand your ground lass, be yourself, cos yourself is good enough.

I thought your post seemed genuine and that gets you a long way, being genuine.

Thank-you Dolly, If im honest im not worried by the slating or scared :) I find it really funny...... all of the people biting are the ones that dont know me. I have a thick skin and im happy with the way I present myself and the way I work in this industry so no amount if slating from some joe bloggs of the punting world is going to change my attitude. I just find it really interesting that people are so highly opinionated about people they dont know. It almost verges on bullying so it's lucky really that I dont give a damn and im not a pushover or they could well have me cowering in a corner and leaving promtly for fear of ever meeting such a horrid client :D Imagine I was a newbie to the world and this is how people spoke about me, jeez i don't think id stick around much.

Hugs Casey xx

See Casey this Is where your going wrong, If you made your photos look like your a minger, then punters would believe you were real lol, ;):(

There are a lot of punters and Escorts who don't know about PN, I'm sure there are a lot of good ladies who don't have a single FR.

Haha jeroba you made me laugh, i might well knock some of my teeth out, eat a few hamburgers and leave my hair unwashed for my next shoot maybe that'll do the trick if they really see me in all my glory, my bookings wil shoot through the roof, lol

Hugs Lil me xx

Hi Casey..fellow glasgow lady

I have had and have the same things you have described, when I first joined punternet some were quite hostile towards me until they realised I really was real :) I still have people asking if I really look like my pics or is it really me in the pics I reply no its my male assistant who has exceptionally nice breasts! I think I have just come to a point where I think...you can't please all of the people all of the time and thats ok just take it on the chin and don't let it ruin your day. Big hugs and if ever need anything mail me.

Love Lou xxxx

Lou you sound lovely jubbly, i'll have to have a sneak peak at you too. I have no intention of pleasing all only those that i want to :-) and nothing ever does ruin my day unless its me in one of my Taz moods in which case I steer clear of the rest of the human population cause it would absolutely not be fair to inflict that on innocent bystanders heehee

Hugs Casey xx

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