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good thread!

my gadget contrib:

"Listen" to recognize tunes played on radio or in public.

I've been told there are a few other too.

BTW: I've held 3 iPads now: they are going to be a whopping success.

(and I am no fan of jobs, and hate smuggness of the apple-crowd, but you gotta hand it to m: neat gadgets)

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Im surprised no one has mentioned the highly acclaimed bubble wrap app, it can save you a fortune in bubble wrapping you dont have all the fuss of stuffing it a recycling bag afterwards and you dont have the guilt of sending all that plasic off to the binman.:D

I too have had the pleasure of touching an ipad today also, for about 3 entire seconds until a salesman relieved me of it as it was for a demo starting a few mins later, funny that, when you actually want to buys something they can usually be seen actively dodging customers. Anyway, i want an ipad now but not sure if i dare what with the lucazade attack on my last laptop and work phone.xx

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i want an ipad and i want one now......i want never gets chimes through my brain

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I am not at all sure on the iPad.

Having used a Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook Tablet PC (Touch screen and voice commands), my experience is that they are neither flesh nor fowl and so I will wait at least a year before getting one.

I am normally an "early adopter" but in this case I think it will be worth the wait to see what it is really like after the hype.

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I am not at all sure on the iPad.

IMO the iPad is Apple's attempt to create it's next cash cow now that the iPhone is facing serious competition from Google Android, and judging by the queues to purchase it when it was launched, it looks like they've succeeded for the time being at least.

It will be very interesting to see how it fares once tablets running Google's Chrome OS start to ship, complete with all the features missing from the iPad (Flash support for example, which is the single biggest gripe apparently from users, apart from fanbois who happily toe Steve Job's totalitarian line on this issue, and USB support etc).

Indeed, Job's spat with Adobe over Flash, the allegedly illegal and heavy handed response to the leak of the iPhone 4G prototype by Gizmodo and the appalling suidice record of Foxconn, for example the suicide of an iPhone 3GS engineer following a similar leak, leave a very nasty taste.

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I am not at all sure on the iPad.

Having used a Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook Tablet PC (Touch screen and voice commands), my experience is that they are neither flesh nor fowl and so I will wait at least a year before getting one.

My guess is that this time next year the current model will be "obsolete", also other manufacturers will have brought out their own versions which should bring prices down.

Those people who queued all night to buy one really need to get a life. :)

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My guess is that this time next year the current model will be "obsolete", also other manufacturers will have brought out their own versions which should bring prices down.

Those people who queued all night to buy one really need to get a life. :)

Jimmy: all above applies to any new gadget.

I am usually a semi early adapter, being a bit of a gadget freak. However I never would buy an IPad, or next version IPAD2. Not that I will wait for HTML5 (or rather when S. Jobs will "wait" for it, lol), where Flash will be compatible with IPAD. I rather get something like Kohjinsha, which is about the same weight, very responsive touch screen, got a webcam, usb and most importantly optical DVD-RW drive! Pity its runs WinXP, but I am sure if I can wait few monts, they will put Win7 on it.

Ipad is undeniably magnificent peice of kit! People who saying that its just oversized Ipod Touch, clearly missing the point. Its SUPPOSE to be and oversized Ipod Touch, FCS!

Mods: can you please move last few replies regarding IPAD to a different thread. ;)

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My guess is that this time next year the current model will be "obsolete", also other manufacturers will have brought out their own versions which should bring prices down.

:)

No need to wait for a next year, Jimmsky. Here you go and it runs on Adroid! £108 incl P&P ;)

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Jimmy: all above applies to any new gadget.

I am usually a semi early adapter, being a bit of a gadget freak. However I never would buy an IPad, or next version IPAD2. Not that I will wait for HTML5 (or rather when S. Jobs will "wait" for it, lol), where Flash will be compatible with IPAD. I rather get something like Kohjinsha, which is about the same weight, very responsive touch screen, got a webcam, usb and most importantly optical DVD-RW drive! Pity its runs WinXP, but I am sure if I can wait few monts, they will put Win7 on it.

Ipad is undeniably magnificent peice of kit! People who saying that its just oversized Ipod Touch, clearly missing the point. Its SUPPOSE to be and oversized Ipod Touch, FCS!

Mods: can you please move last few replies regarding IPAD to a different thread. :(

Much as I detest Apple (yes, with a passion), I have to spring to their defence. The iPad weighs between 680g and 730g... the device you link to weighs almost twice as much as the lightest iPad (1,250g).

In fact, the Vye/Kohjinsha thingy should have been aborted on the drawing board... I doubt that the Intel Atom has the horsepower to handle multi touch (indeed multi touch isn't referred to on the web page linked from what I can see) and as for a PATA HDD in this day and age, and who in their right mind needs a built in DVD drive now that flash memory is so cheap and ubiquitous? Hideous. ;)

As for the iPad being a magnificent piece of kit, it's already being compared to the ill-fated Newton in some corners:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/28/ipad_love_affair_goes_sour/

If I was a betting person I'd wager that the majority of iPads will be gathering dust as overweight, over-priced paper weights within the year. :)

(Just in time for an incrementally updated iPad version 2 to ship which will have all the sad fanbois rushing out to buy something else that doesn't live up to the hype.)

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In fact, the Vye/Kohjinsha thingy should have been aborted on the drawing board... I doubt that the Intel Atom has the horsepower to handle multi touch (indeed multi touch isn't referred to on the web page linked from what I can see) and as for a PATA HDD in this day and age, and who in their right mind needs a built in DVD drive now that flash memory is so cheap and ubiquitous? Hideous. :)

I do agree, that Kohjinsha its just a well overpriced underpowered and obsolete netbook...only for now that is!. Its overpriced because the features where not any other netbooks brands managed to achieve: ie screen is rotatable, its a touch screen and they squezeed a DVD-RW in such tiny package!

As for "and who in their right mind needs a built in DVD drive now that flash memory is so cheap and ubiquitous? Hideous"

I do, LOL. I don't want to bother to convert movies from DVD, and then to transfer then to a flash drive! I just want to slid DVD without any hassle and previous preparation, and watch them there and then, when I am travelling, staying in the hotels, etc. I want it to double up as a little DVD player also. So for me its very important to have an optical DVD drive in the same tiny device. Sorry, I am just a very shallow in that sense, and I am sure I am not the only one. ;)

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I do agree, that Kohjinsha its just a well overpriced underpowered and obsolete netbook...only for now that is!. Its overpriced because the features where not any other netbooks brands managed to achieve: ie screen is rotatable, its a touch screen and they squezeed a DVD-RW in such tiny package!

As for "and who in their right mind needs a built in DVD drive now that flash memory is so cheap and ubiquitous? Hideous"

I do, LOL. I don't want to bother to convert movies from DVD, and then to transfer then to a flash drive! I just want to slid DVD without any hassle and previous preparation, and watch them there and then, when I am travelling, staying in the hotels, etc. I want it to double up as a little DVD player also. So for me its very important to have an optical DVD drive in the same tiny device. Sorry, I am just a very shallow in that sense, and I am sure I am not the only one. :rolleyes:

Hideous applied to the device itself, not the presence of a DVD drive.

I agree that it's easier to take a DVDs with you on a trip. I'd rather have the option of not taking the DVD drive with me, however, and adding unnecessary weight. I therefore carry a USB DVD drive when I'm travelling and want to watch a movie. At home, the docking station for my laptop has a built in DVD drive (or HDD depending on what I need to do).

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I really love my 32GB Ipod Touch and am very interested in upgrading to an Ipad. I'd be happy to sacrifice the compactness of the Ipod Touch for the larger screen and (for the 64GB model) greater storage capacity.

Trouble is at £600 for the model I want, I am slightly daunted by the price tag :rolleyes:.

The main usage of my current Ipod Touch are

- Viewing video files transferred from DVD (currently working my way through "The Wire")

- Listening to music in the car (via an FM transmitter dongle)

- Browsing Punternet and Adultwork whilst staying away in hotels

- Playing the odd game to while away a boring hour or two spent in an airport

I suppose that I could probably manage the above list quite happily using a netbook or a tablet PC. Does anyone here have a view on the relative merits of an Ipad vs these two other options for the sort of price point I am considering ?

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I really love my 32GB Ipod Touch and am very interested in upgrading to an Ipad. I'd be happy to sacrifice the compactness of the Ipod Touch for the larger screen and (for the 64GB model) greater storage capacity.

Trouble is at £600 for the model I want, I am slightly daunted by the price tag :D.

The main usage of my current Ipod Touch are

- Viewing video files transferred from DVD (currently working my way through "The Wire")

- Listening to music in the car (via an FM transmitter dongle)

- Browsing Punternet and Adultwork whilst staying away in hotels

- Playing the odd game to while away a boring hour or two spent in an airport

I suppose that I could probably manage the above list quite happily using a netbook or a tablet PC. Does anyone here have a view on the relative merits of an Ipad vs these two other options for the sort of price point I am considering ?

You can get a ThinkPad X200 for just under £700 in Lenovo's Spring sale:

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/gbweb/LenovoPortal/en_GB/special-offers.workflow:ShowPromo?LandingPage=/All/EMEA/Landing_pages/Promos/clearance-sale

It's an old model (the X201 replaces it), but it's a great piece of kit, which is built like a tank (it passes several US military MIL SPEC standards) and easily serviceable. There's also an X200s for just over £600 but it doesn't have the grunt of the X200. You can upgrade the warranty on both to 3 years on site with accidental damage for £125 too.

Neither model appears to have integrated mobile broadband, but that's relatively easy to retro-fit. :rolleyes:

(I am thoroughly biased: I have a 2.13GHz C2D X200s that goes everywhere with me and is my main PC which is hooked up a 24" HP monitor when I'm at home. I've found it the perfect foil to my HTC Legend. Despite this I'm enviously eyeing the X301 in the sale... although I can't really justify dropping £1,250 on it.)

Oh and there are also some interesting Android based tablets emerging, and also Asus have just announced a Windows 7 based tablet which will be worth investigating further.

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You can get a ThinkPad X200 for just under £700 in Lenovo's Spring sale:

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/gbweb/LenovoPortal/en_GB/special-offers.workflow:ShowPromo?LandingPage=/All/EMEA/Landing_pages/Promos/clearance-sale

It's an old model (the X201 replaces it), but it's a great piece of kit, which is built like a tank (it passes several US military MIL SPEC standards) and easily serviceable. There's also an X200s for just over £600 but it doesn't have the grunt of the X200. You can upgrade the warranty on both to 3 years on site with accidental damage for £125 too.

Neither model appears to have integrated mobile broadband, but that's relatively easy to retro-fit. :D

(I am thoroughly biased: I have a 2.13GHz C2D X200s that goes everywhere with me and is my main PC which is hooked up a 24" HP monitor when I'm at home. I've found it the perfect foil to my HTC Legend. Despite this I'm enviously eyeing the X301 in the sale... although I can't really justify dropping £1,250 on it.)

Oh and there are also some interesting Android based tablets emerging, and also Asus have just announced a Windows 7 based tablet which will be worth investigating further.

B

Cheers B, but I was already finding the thought of £600 for an iPad a bit daunting :rolleyes:. I was hoping for a somewhat cheaper option for the limited number of things I want to do mobile-computing wise.

I see plenty of netbooks advertised for about £200 on ebay. I assume that the performance of these beasts is somewhat woeful though.

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I must be missing something, but a 'computer' which cannot run Word, Photoshop, and you need to buy a plug-in keyboard. Oh, and no USBs?

WTF?

No thanks. Looks like an iPhone on steriods but without the phone functions. An utter waste of money for a misplaced, poorly conveived product. Yet I am an avid Apple fan, with an iPhone 3GS, a new iMac and a MacBook Pro...

There will be hundreds of used ones on ebay within 2 weeks.

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Cheers B, but I was already finding the thought of £600 for an iPad a bit daunting :rolleyes:. I was hoping for a somewhat cheaper option for the limited number of things I want to do mobile-computing wise.

I see plenty of netbooks advertised for about £200 on ebay. I assume that the performance of these beasts is somewhat woeful though.

Some will disagree no doubt, but netbooks are toys. You won't find a decent keyboard on one and they're woefully inadequate the moment you throw a reasonably taxing task at them. The only good thing going for them can be decent battery life.

The X200 is in another league entirely. My X200s weighs 1,300g with a 4 cell battery which is good for 4 hours. It weighs a few hundred grammes more with a 9 cell battery but it'll last maybe 8 hours including wi-fi and mobile broadband usage (battery life from the X200 won't be as good as the X200s has a low voltage processor and SSD).

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There will be hundreds of used ones on ebay within 2 weeks.

I certainly hope so Taggart.

I already have a (high spec) laptop, supplied by my employer. If I need to access MS Office or anything keyboard hungry, I use that. I also have a pretty decent desktop PC at home.

The trouble with my work laptop, is it is rubbish for doing the things I listed above. It is locked down, so I cannot load it up with music and/or video files and access to sites like PN and ** would not be a good idea (even if they were not already blocked).

The iPad meets my needs admirably (and will fit inside my current laptop case easily, unlike a 2nd laptop), albeit at a price above which I am comfortable in paying. That's why I am interested in alternative suggestions.

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The iPad meets my needs admirably (and will fit inside my current laptop case easily, unlike a 2nd laptop), albeit at a price above which I am comfortable in paying. That's why I am interested in alternative suggestions.

Did you meant: albeit at a price above which I am NOT comfortable in paying?

Well: I posted an alternative of Chinese export in my response to Jimmy above: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39448

Granted: its not anything close to IPAD, but the the price nothing close to IPAD either! lol You would not be able to download Apple Apps, but then it runs in Android and more then plenty apps are available (will be as much as for Ipad/Iphone in the matter of the year).

Battery life is shite (2 hours) in comparison with Ipad (8-10 hours).

Its still can work as a book reader, got wifi acess and will perform your basic Office tasks (providing you download Androffice for example).

Altertnatively: you can abstain from 3-4 bookings with escorts and get an Ipad instead. :)

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I must be missing something, but a 'computer' which cannot run Word, Photoshop, and you need to buy a plug-in keyboard. Oh, and no USBs?

WTF?

No thanks. Looks like an iPhone on steriods but without the phone functions. An utter waste of money for a misplaced, poorly conveived product. Yet I am an avid Apple fan, with an iPhone 3GS, a new iMac and a MacBook Pro...

There will be hundreds of used ones on ebay within 2 weeks.

My opinion exactly!

I love love goodies and gadgets but the iPad will never be on my wish list nor an iPhone (stupid shape for a phone / not comfortable to hold against your ear for anything other than a 2 second chat, and I'd forever be wiping ear grease off that mark magnet screen - yuk! thanks but no thanks).

That said, I love my iPod Touch.

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I must be missing something, but a 'computer' which cannot run Word, Photoshop, and you need to buy a plug-in keyboard. Oh, and no USBs?

WTF?

No thanks. Looks like an iPhone on steriods but without the phone functions. An utter waste of money for a misplaced, poorly conveived product. Yet I am an avid Apple fan, with an iPhone 3GS, a new iMac and a MacBook Pro...

There will be hundreds of used ones on ebay within 2 weeks.

You have indeed missed the point. The iPad is not meant to be a notebook computer. And you don't need to buy a plug in keyboard, it has a touch screen one built in. As for not running Word, who needs Word when it's got Pages? The fact it's flying out of every Apple store that has stock shows it's not ill conceived. Just like the iPod and the iPhone before it, there are those prediciting it will bomb and just like these detractors were wrong about the iPod and the iPhone, they'll be wrong about the iPad. Haven't got one yet and I may well wait until iPad v2 comes out by which time it will be an even better product. OK so the iPad isn't the product for you, don't buy one then, but it's proving to be the product a lot of other people want.

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Just like the iPod and the iPhone before it, there are those prediciting it will bomb and just like these detractors were wrong about the iPod and the iPhone, they'll be wrong about the iPad.

One of the Mac magazines recently dug out some of the Forum posts from when His Holiness St. Steve announced the first iPod - boy do they look silly now :cool:

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You have indeed missed the point. The iPad is not meant to be a notebook computer. And you don't need to buy a plug in keyboard, it has a touch screen one built in. As for not running Word, who needs Word when it's got Pages? The fact it's flying out of every Apple store that has stock shows it's not ill conceived. Just like the iPod and the iPhone before it, there are those prediciting it will bomb and just like these detractors were wrong about the iPod and the iPhone, they'll be wrong about the iPad. Haven't got one yet and I may well wait until iPad v2 comes out by which time it will be an even better product. OK so the iPad isn't the product for you, don't buy one then, but it's proving to be the product a lot of other people want.

I agree entirely and mine is on order! I think that we might just be seeing the future of computing.

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I agree entirely and mine is on order! I think that we might just be seeing the future of computing.

Yeah, right. :cool::)

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Yeah, right. :cool::)

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Let us wait and see!

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