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TOURS - Rules are rules but.....

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

Could you provide a link to the Tour rules please?

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

Yes, I'd like more details too, I had no idea there were formal rules on where you can tour. It conjures up an image of some sort of fixtures committee, like the FA: Galahad, Ghenghis et al sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room deciding Xenia can't play away next week because she'd clash with London Laura! ;):)

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G did mention that he was thinking about changing the rules regarding tours, I'm in the same position as you Karin. I tend to tour in East Anglia and it's 60 miles from my incall place so wouldn't be able to add it to the tour section as it's in my area.

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Yes, I'd like more details too, I had no idea there were formal rules on where you can tour. It conjures up an image of some sort of fixtures committee, like the FA: Galahad, Ghenghis et al sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room deciding Xenia can't play away next week because she'd clash with London Laura! :o:)

You can't tour in your home area i.e I wouldn't be able to tour anywhere in East Anglia and put it in the tour section. So a lady in London wouldn't be able to advertise there either.

Which reminds me I need to renew my listing ;)

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I agree, it would be a lot easier if we could simply not tour in our town, im in east anglia also so it can be limiting.

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Could you provide a link to the Tour rules please?

I did not exactly found the "Tour rules", but there is a blurb before submitting ad.

The Tour Calendar is ONLY for special events AWAY from your home area. Calendar entries must ONLY cover the actual tour dates. Abuse of the Calendar will result in your listing being cancelled!

I asume that in Kerin's case, she can't advertise tour in Yourk Harrogate or Hull, (Yorkshire) because its "not away from home" area, because Karin based in Sheffield, which is Yorkshire also and its damn a vast county (probabaly the largestg in England)

TBH honest I can't understand it fully, if it is only considered to be a tour if you are out of the county you based in. But then I don't know other solution, how to distinguish between Tour or cross over the road and you are in a different county. (in case with my location...more or less)

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

I have the same problem Karin, I hope it will get changed as Yorkshire is a massive area.

Shelly

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You can't tour in your home area i.e I wouldn't be able to tour anywhere in East Anglia and put it in the tour section. So a lady in London wouldn't be able to advertise there either.

Which reminds me I need to renew my listing :o

On the face of it, that seems slightly bizarre to me. East Anglia, in your case, is a big place. You're based in Loughton Charlotte, and you're 'not allowed' to announce a tour in, say, Norwich? Or a lady based in Ilford wouldn't be able to mention a few days based in Brentford? And bringing it closer to my own home, presumably Highland Amanda (to take the most northerly example I can think of) wouldn't be allowed to announce a spell in Dumfries and Kilmarnock, because they're both in her tiny little 'home area' of Scotland!

I thought that the escort trade was one of the ultimate examples of free enterprise, and in that context this rule seems completely counter-intuitive. I'd be interested to hear from one or the rule makers the justification for this one. :):confused::);):confused:

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I did not exactly found the "Tour rules", but there is a blurb before submitting ad.

The Tour Calendar is ONLY for special events AWAY from your home area. Calendar entries must ONLY cover the actual tour dates. Abuse of the Calendar will result in your listing being cancelled!

I asume that in Kerin's case, she can't advertise tour in Yourk Harrogate or Hull, (Yorkshire) because its "not away from home" area, because Karin based in Sheffield, which is Yorkshire also and its damn a vast county (probabaly the largestg in England)

TBH honest I can't understand it fully, if it is only considered to be a tour if you are out of the county you based in. But then I don't know other solution, how to distinguish between Tour or cross over the road and you are in a different county. (in case with my location...more or less)

I see, thank you, it would be helpful if a somewhat more precise definition of "Home area" were supplied, but I suppose that County is as good a guess as any other.

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

I dont think I would be too upset to be told I could not tour in any of the above so maybe its a good policy :)

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On the face of it, that seems slightly bizarre to me. East Anglia, in your case, is a big place. You're based in Loughton Charlotte, and you're 'not allowed' to announce a tour in, say, Norwich? Or a lady based in Ilford wouldn't be able to mention a few days based in Brentford? And bringing it closer to my own home, presumably Highland Amanda (to take the most northerly example I can think of) wouldn't be allowed to announce a spell in Dumfries and Kilmarnock, because they're both in her tiny little 'home area' of Scotland!

I thought that the escort trade was one of the ultimate examples of free enterprise, and in that context this rule seems completely counter-intuitive. I'd be interested to hear from one or the rule makers the justification for this one. :):confused::o;):confused:

Yes that's right Tony.

I think there was problems with girls abusing the tour calendar a long time ago, posting tours when they wasn't actually on tour so the calendar was flooded. I can see why G made it a default that if your listed you can't tour your area, but the counties are so vast.

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I see, thank you, it would be helpful if a somewhat more precise definition of "Home area" were supplied, but I suppose that County is as good a guess as any other.

That was my guess too. For example I can "tour within the rules" in Liestershire which is not the county I live in but its only 2 miles from me, Staffordshire another mere 5 miles or so, South Derbyshyre: 7-8 miles away. However I would not be able to advertise "tour" in my own county "Warwickshire" and some places towards Oxfordshire border (but still Warwickshire) is almost 60 miles away from me.

Still: as I said, I don't know how other solution can be aplicable without abusing the Tour calendar.

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Still: as I said, I don't know how other solution can be aplicable without abusing the Tour calendar.

The easy way would be to allow any tour anywhere and actually enforce the banning rule re abuse, do random checks and if a tour(s) is considered to be abuse then publish the names of those who are banned, over a period of time those that are left will be the ones who do not abuse.

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I have the same problem Karin, I hope it will get changed as Yorkshire is a massive area.

Shelly

I'm sorry but I think a tour should be a tour. Not an hour away from home!

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I'm hearing no complaints from wgs based in Rutland!

( good joke spoiled by the fact Rutland no longer exists, alas)

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I find it frustrating that I can tour in, for example, Manchester, Derby, or Nottingham - all just a short journey away; yet not York, Harrogate or Hull. Whilst I agree abuse of the Tours Board is unwelcome, my area is large and I find the present system very limiting....

I suggest you move, welcome to Karin of Rutland - that ought to ensure you can post tours to anywhere.

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I suggest you move, welcome to Karin of Rutland - that ought to ensure you can post tours to anywhere.

Brilliant advise and you should take it on the board Karin! :)

Rutland from 1997 officially not belong to Leicestershire anymore and the smallest county in England! (if not in whole UK)

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There are many route maps now available on the internet. When they appear, they are accompanied by the distance of the route requested. If the county restriction were to be replaced one providing for the distance by the shortest route from the service provider's postcode address to the postcode address of the tour location, it would solve the problem. In fact, it would be easier to monitor, if checking were needed at any time. Those in authority could set the distance.

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Carlisle is a 1 hour drive, Whitehaven 1.5 hours yet they wouldn't be classified as a tour however a 25 minute trip to Lancaster would be.

I just won't tour Carlisle!

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I suggest you move, welcome to Karin of Rutland - that ought to ensure you can post tours to anywhere.

Hmmmm

http://www.rutland.gov.uk/

Actually, Yorkshire is not one county but several, i.e west yorkshire, north yorkshire, south yorkshire et al.

and scotland has many counties.

Maybe the county list needs adjusting?

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Carlisle is a 1 hour drive, Whitehaven 1.5 hours yet they wouldn't be classified as a tour however a 25 minute trip to Lancaster would be.

I just won't tour Carlisle!

Tour Gretna instead!

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Good to see there seems to be a consensus on this.

I'm sorry but I think a tour should be a tour. Not an hour away from home!

But the present rules would allow me to tour in Chesterfield, less than half an hour away!

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I'd be interested to hear from one or the rule makers the justification for this one. :cool::confused::(:):confused:

Flagged for the Almighty Rule-Maker Himself's attention................;)

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