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guardian article-whorephobia

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I happily suffer from the opposite which i will call Whorelovia but i prefer the word WG.:cool:

I have heard over the years that generally female police officers treat WGs with more distain than their male counterparts, no idea if this is the case or not, but many have said it was.

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I happily suffer from the opposite which i will call Whorelovia but i prefer the word WG.:cool:

I have heard over the years that generally female police officers treat WGs with more distain than their male counterparts, no idea if this is the case or not, but many have said it was.

It comes across that way in films :D

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It comes across that way in films :D

I havent made any films with WGs.:cool:;)

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we need to use this term more often to describe those who have a hatred of sex workers

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I was going to say that I didnt consider it a phobia, to me that says irrational fear rather than irrational hatred.

On further thought that sums it up perfectly, if more women were "honest" about thier positions in relation to sex life would be a lot easier. Weather women trade cold hard cash or shoes, handbags, drinks or dinner its still the same thing. Wifes and Girlfriends just cost a lot more to maintain :cool:.

It seems to me many refuse to acknowledge thier genuine position in relation to sex and as such try to disasosiate from what they consider too frighteningly close to the truth. The HH's of the word too afraid to admit the realities of sex in the modern day world, thier world so they would rather attempt to arradicate it. Whorephobia is exactly what it is, just dont expect anyone to admit it they would be too afraid

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It's safe to say, that for ever and a day, men and women will court and make love to each other and the last thing on their minds will be monetary or specifically material gain. The general gist of the feminist viewpoint appears to me to question the act of giving it away for nothing which alarms me slightly.

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There's no such thing as a Sisterhood.

Feminists are the greatest whorephobes.

The call girls, on here, can, without doubt, gives examples of the abuse they've suffered at the hands of feminists.

Actually, if I want to look at examples of misogyny and abuse I only need to look at some of your downright nasty inflammatory posts!

What would you know about sisterhood? In this industry especially, among the most important aspect is the support and connections to my 'sisters'! 'Feminists' are not the enemy! I very much resent that especially an ignorant guy assumes that the concept of feminism is at odds with working as a prostitute. If anything it is empowering to set a price rather than be expected to provide a sexual service to your partner as an automatic right of men. The right to say NO and the concept of rape within marriage are all achievements of lobbying for greater justice and equality which is an important aspect of feminism. Feminism is not a dirty word despite especially guys trying to undermine its concept. However, it is not a totalitarian movement with just one tolerated point of view. There are many differing attitudes and it appears when feminism is spat out like an insult here and elsewhere it is with one group of feminists in mind. They don't speak for all feminists although undoubtedly they try. Likewise overbearing narrow minded guys on here do not speak for us either!

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Julie Bindel and Harriet Harman are feminists and they don't hate prostitutes ? :D

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I read the Guardian article and the responses to it, and it made me feel so sad. So much judgemental vitriol, and the idea that sex should not be paid for, reiterated over and over again. And this in what professes to be a liberal and enlightened newspaper.

I'm not a brilliant athlete, I cant draw, I cant sing. But if I could nobody would have a problem paying me vast sums to bring pleasure through those skills. Just so happens my interests and skills lie in other directions.

I was a nurse for nearly 20 years, trust me, i've had to do awful things that i didnt want to in that job. And I was considered an angel. The hypocrisy makes me feel sick, it really does.

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I have joined the Guardian comments area as 'Urre' so I can fight back on behalf of escorts and punters.

There really are some uneducated stereo type people commenting on there.

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Julie Bindel and Harriet Harman are feminists and they don't hate prostitutes ? :D

You are a man (allegedly) and yet I don't despise all other men...

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i liked the comment: choosing masturbation over paying for sex is for the tight fisted

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Julie Bindel and Harriet Harman are feminists and they don't hate prostitutes ? ;)

No they don't. They hate prostitution and everything about it because they view it as something that is done to people by others (to women by men, since they refuse to accept that some sex workers are male or transgender) rather than something that is done by people, therefore they pity prostitutes because they are unable to comprehend that people can make a positive choice which involves having sex with a man they don't know.

The Julie Bindels and Cath Elliots of this world are disgusted by the idea that women might like having sex with men full stop but this is extremism, not feminism. Not to be confused with misogyny, which is the main abiding quality in the tone and content of a significant number of your posts.

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No they don't. They hate prostitution and everything about it because they view it as something that is done to people by others (to women by men, since they refuse to accept that some sex workers are male or transgender) rather than something that is done by people, therefore they pity prostitutes because they are unable to comprehend that people can make a positive choice which involves having sex with a man they don't know.

The Julie Bindels and Cath Elliots of this world are disgusted by the idea that women might like having sex with men full stop but this is extremism, not feminism. Not to be confused with misogyny, which is the main abiding quality in the tone and content of a significant number of your posts.

Exactly. Hence the fondness for the term 'prostituted women' amongst Bindel and her ilk.

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No they don't. They hate prostitution and everything about it because they view it as something that is done to people by others (to women by men, since they refuse to accept that some sex workers are male or transgender) rather than something that is done by people, therefore they pity prostitutes because they are unable to comprehend that people can make a positive choice which involves having sex with a man they don't know.

The Julie Bindels and Cath Elliots of this world are disgusted by the idea that women might like having sex with men full stop but this is extremism, not feminism. Not to be confused with misogyny, which is the main abiding quality in the tone and content of a significant number of your posts.

Harriet Harman and her type don't seem to have not accepted that there are many women who do not find it degrading to have sex with a man and may wish to have sex with many partners because its an enjoyable activity! What they have done in a basically flawed campaign to promote female equalities, is to actually deny women a fundamental freedom of choice. The whole debate should switch focus to one of about freedom of choice in a tolerant and civilised society for an activity, sex, which is not illegal between consenting adults and perfectly natural.

The difference between a willing, independent, self employed woman running her own business and a pimp or drug dealer exploiting the weak and vulnerable is actually as wide as the difference between professional boxing and GBH. Similar activities, one legal and an honourable way of making a living, the other illegal and rightly so.

Somehow, we need the world to understand how to seperate the enjoyment of sex, from the expoitation and issues that do exist within the industry. Who knows how long this might take - don't forget that there are people alive today in the UK who were born at a time when women didn't even have the right to vote!

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I love the posts 'URRE' great defense for the industry!

There are actually 2 types of feminists- 'Pro-sex feminists' and 'sex-negative feminists' who are at loggerheads on subjects such as pornogrpahy, stripping and sex work. Pro-sex feminists see sex industry work as something that should be viewed as positive and participants should not be stigmatised. Sex-negative feminists continue to reinforce dated views that female sexuality should not be a commodity or used in any way for gain, or even really enjoyed or appreciated.

So saying 'feminists are against prostitutes' is not entirely accurtate because there are many pro-sex feminists fighting for our cause (like me!)

Obviously there are problems with exploitation within this industry which is why the denial of being recognised as a legitimate profession only serves to exascerbate the problems.

Whorephobia is a great term to describe the taboo and stigma attached to sex workers! I shall bring this up in my next meeting... xx

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If I met a guy who could get women to pay him for sex, I'd be pretty jealous of him. I'm sure the whore haters are the same.

Like those damn hosts in Japan, lucky buggers.

As always, haters gonna hate.

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Oh dear, Guardian readers seem to have regressed since the last time this topic had an outing on CIF. I notice one poster even has the cheek to sneer at Daily Mail readers. Last time I checked, DM readers seemed to be more broadminded on this issue.

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