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I think I should mention - I have read what rules I can find but I think the forum is more of a friendly community than a rulebook, so working out what's acceptable to post is as much an art as a science. I don't have a problem with that. But although I punt quite regularly I don't punt with ladies on this board - I enjoy chatting rather than the business relationship which is separate. But recent comments and a thread opened and closed by the mods rather suggests to me than reference to specific women in response to requests for information is perhaps best limited to ladies registered on this site, which rather rules me out I'm afraid. I do visit the odd parlour as well as seeing escorts, but almost invariably ones not listed on Punternet, so I rather suspect it won't be worth contributing with info any more sadly - but it was mostly only Edinburgh based anyway, so maybe no great loss, but one has to respect the owners of site, irrespective of the stated mission.

The section on general discussion still seems open as long as not discussing ladies not on Punternet, and I quite happen to enjoy abstract discussion as well. Just wanted to mention this so people don't think I'm being unhelpful where I used to offer help in the past.

Regards, HS

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[Thread originally posted in UK & Ireland Requests for Information Forum]

OK, this is totally Off Topic for this section as it is not a Request for Information. There is a hint in the title as to what this is actually for.

However it needs an answer as it makes a totally wrongful assumption.

Punternet is for discussion of the Punting scene generally and your premise that a girl has to be registered here in order to be discussed is so off target as to be risible if you did not think you were serious.

Virtually none of the ladies mentioned in the Sensual Massage section are members here let alone advertise here. None of the craigslist, gumtree etc ladies are registered here or advertise here.

A lot of ladies do become members here AFTER seeing or being told that there is a thread about them here and that is the only "evidence" I can find for such a bizarre assumption.

In case people wish to debate this, I shall move it to the General Discussion area where it should have been posted.

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The section on general discussion still seems open as long as not discussing ladies not on Punternet, and I quite happen to enjoy abstract discussion as well. Just wanted to mention this so people don't think I'm being unhelpful where I used to offer help in the past.

I wouldn't give it a moment's thought, I post my drivel purely to pass the time, if a discussion results then I'm happy to join in, but if what I post happens, by dint of no replies, to end up as a free-standing statement (as is the case with most) then I really don't care. Just post away and if what you post is deemed to be useful then fine, if not then that is also fine.

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I think I should mention - I have read what rules I can find but I think the forum is more of a friendly community than a rulebook, so working out what's acceptable to post is as much an art as a science. I don't have a problem with that. But although I punt quite regularly I don't punt with ladies on this board - I enjoy chatting rather than the business relationship which is separate. But recent comments and a thread opened and closed by the mods rather suggests to me than reference to specific women in response to requests for information is perhaps best limited to ladies registered on this site, which rather rules me out I'm afraid. I do visit the odd parlour as well as seeing escorts, but almost invariably ones not listed on Punternet, so I rather suspect it won't be worth contributing with info any more sadly - but it was mostly only Edinburgh based anyway, so maybe no great loss, but one has to respect the owners of site, irrespective of the stated mission.

The section on general discussion still seems open as long as not discussing ladies not on Punternet, and I quite happen to enjoy abstract discussion as well. Just wanted to mention this so people don't think I'm being unhelpful where I used to offer help in the past.

Regards, HS

I think your usually reliable posting radar needs to be sent back to the factory for a service HS :mad:. I've never had a problem discussing WGs who aren't registered here and can't think of a single time that someone has as long as they have remained factual and non-abusive (I don't read every thread though, especially on the RFI board).

If we were only allowed to discuss registered ladies there would be a lot less threads I fear (and the ones that we had would alternate between overenthusiastic cheerleading for the positive comments and lunge/riposte/parry for the critical ones).

Post away about your experiences with those Edinburgh ladies. I certainly visit the city every few months (indeed, I had my second ever punt there) and would be interested in your info on the scene. What else is punternet for ?

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Hi.

The more you post about ladies you have seen in other areas, the better it is for all of us, its true at the moment that MK seems to be mentioned a lot, but that is because a few of the ladies and punters who come from there are saying the most.

Feel free to introduce other ladies we dont know about, and talk about areas that you come from, as its going to get some others also contributing.

You can be a help and are just that.

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If this is actually all about 'We can't talk about ladies we found on **' then you're very wrong.

You can talk about ladies you found anywhere.

The only thing that is prohibited is discussion of the street scene, and discussion of the pro's , cons etc of **. If you wish to discuss a lady you found there, all you to say is 'I had a meeting with a lady I found on another site, etc etc'.

Very simple.

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I think I should mention - I have read what rules I can find but I think the forum is more of a friendly community than a rulebook, so working out what's acceptable to post is as much an art as a science. I don't have a problem with that. But although I punt quite regularly I don't punt with ladies on this board - I enjoy chatting rather than the business relationship which is separate. But recent comments and a thread opened and closed by the mods rather suggests to me than reference to specific women in response to requests for information is perhaps best limited to ladies registered on this site, which rather rules me out I'm afraid. I do visit the odd parlour as well as seeing escorts, but almost invariably ones not listed on Punternet, so I rather suspect it won't be worth contributing with info any more sadly - but it was mostly only Edinburgh based anyway, so maybe no great loss, but one has to respect the owners of site, irrespective of the stated mission.

The section on general discussion still seems open as long as not discussing ladies not on Punternet, and I quite happen to enjoy abstract discussion as well. Just wanted to mention this so people don't think I'm being unhelpful where I used to offer help in the past.

Regards, HS

Posters can post about who they like bar the lady on the no discussion list, streetworkers and others excluded within the rules. Where it becomes a problem is where punters are cheerleading one WG the whole time or where those pretending to be punters tout or cheerlead along with WGs who blatantly and frequently tout themselves IMO. If a pattern develops for any of the above the Mods will see it in my experience.

One long term poster asked very recently (again) why WGs cant just tout on here, because its against Galahads rules and it is his site, his rules is the ultimate answer. That doesnt mean that the rules shouldnt be challenged, i have done this myself and am very glad the FR rules have been changed to now allow a new FR every 6 months per WG or Party provider. That is a very good rule change in my view and the views of many punters i know.

HS you can be of great help by posting your punting experiences on here thus sharing information with others.

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The reason behind the post was that I looked at the Forum yesterday, saw a thread opened by a mod asking people to cool off talking about A---W and, after a few voices either way, promptly closed the thread. As it is the biggest source of escort services in the UK by far, as I don't punt with ladies from here, and as the trickle from Craigslist, Vivastreet and so on is ridiculously small by comparison, and as the so-called A---W forum is a joke and anyway hardly affects whether it should be discussed here, and as accordingly nearly all my punts, often several a month are on A---W, which needs considerable extra information in order to punt successfully, and as I have gone to considerable lengths to try to post both general and specific information to assist my fellow mongers find successful paid-for sex via A---W this, the main source (many, many times bigger than all other sources put together), and as such discussions, from the tone of the thread (by JKay: 'Can we give A_W a miss please') is specifically to discourage such information and discussion, more than the existing prohibition of not naming A---W directly, and as one of the main boards is specifically for 'information about, and recommendations for, service providers' but with no further specific rule or clarification as to the degree to which the biggest source of service providers in the UK is 'off topic', then no, I do not think my post was really that far 'off radar.'

It is reasonable to conclude that the mods/Galahad wish us to carry on as if the principal source of service providers does not exist and yet proclaim that we can talk about and discuss all relevant information. The thread being promptly locked, suggests even discussion of the polite request is not to be discussed further.

So all information about scams on the A---W site, avoiding getting ripped off, discussion that could help PN WGs also on there seems to be included, all reasons why you should avoid it, as well as all useful information on how to navigate and use it successfully while avoiding problems is to be 'cooled off.' And if that is not what the mods meant, then I would ask them to clarify exactly what they did mean.

My opinions are clear, but I neither have any desire to 'cheerleader' for A---W or go against the wishes of the mods and Galahad. And I think maybe some clarity might be good for everyone.

Regards

HS

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Since posting this, I have found another comment by a mod, " so lets have no more threads that are about A---W (good or bad) for a while, its not a ban but just be economical on the eye please besides we have enough live threads already."

So does this mean existing threads are ok?? Is it ok to post relevant A---W info on say, the Edinburgh thread (which I have tried to do where it relates to that city, for economy of threads)? And could you maybe suggest a rough idea of what you mean by 'a while' perhaps please?

I just want to know where I stand that's all. Happy to abide by the mods wishes on it, just some clarity s'il vous plait.;)

ps one suggestion might be to have a single thread or sticky devoted to discussion of the big A---W devil. It's up to you. But this mind reading stuff is a bit beyond me. ;)

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Well you seem to have posted an ** thread despite reading that you shouldn't. Well done.

Galahad owns the site and does not wish to be associated with **. Isn't that enough for you? You can discuss ladies, and if you use the phrase 'another place' most people will know where you mean. Discussion of their poor practices etc is simply unnecessary here.

Existing threads - there are a-plenty and it would not be feasible to delete them all.

There is always the option of setting up your own website. You could call it 'The ** Discussion Site'. ;)

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Well you seem to have posted an ** thread despite reading that you shouldn't. Well done.

Galahad owns the site and does not wish to be associated with **. Isn't that enough for you? You can discuss ladies, and if you use the phrase 'another place' most people will know where you mean. Discussion of their poor practices etc is simply unnecessary here.

Existing threads - there are a-plenty and it would not be feasible to delete them all.

There is always the option of setting up your own website. You could call it 'The ** Discussion Site'. ;)

But Claire, what a nonsense this is! I also quote you: "If you wish to discuss a lady you found there, all you to say is 'I had a meeting with a lady I found on another site…..", the inference being that everyone will know what that site is. What a silly cat-and-mouse game this is!

Oh - and I'd avoid the use of those ;) if I were you. You know what happened to Jimmy! :D

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But Claire, what a nonsense this is! I also quote you: "If you wish to discuss a lady you found there, all you to say is 'I had a meeting with a lady I found on another site…..", the inference being that everyone will know what that site is. What a silly cat-and-mouse game this is!

Oh - and I'd avoid the use of those ;) if I were you. You know what happened to Jimmy! :D

Well, this is not a democracy, it is a privately owned site and if them's the rules, them's the rules.

As for the rolling eyes, I caught them as Jimmy bowled them past me the other day so I thought I may as well use 'em. ;)

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What a silly cat-and-mouse game this is!

Agreed, but it's inevitable.

I imagine we'll generally trundle along in laissez-faire mode, as we seem to have done since the last time this reared up, interspersed with the occasional request from a mod to cease with the threads, a couple of days headscratching until it all dies down and off we go again as before.

Rinse and repeat ad infintum.

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Alternatively, it could be a little more sensible to take the hints that have been given.

We would hate to lose anyone.

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Well, this is not a democracy, it is a privately owned site and if them's the rules, them's the rules.

As for the rolling eyes, I caught them as Jimmy bowled them past me the other day so I thought I may as well use 'em. ;)

Indeed it is and "rules is rules" after all.;) I dont think Galahad is going to change this one anytime soon IMO, so even though it is in my experience a disadvantage not to be able to give A/W links and use the WGs A/W nickname in FRs so it is easier to locate her, we have to live with and accept/respect Gs rules or fuck off elsewhere. On balance i can easily live with the present rules.:D

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Well thanks for the clarification, fwiw. I suppose everyone has to make their own decision. Some threads are for chatting. Some are to give useful info. So one makes up one's own mind if the effort in contributing is appreciated sufficiently to make it worthwhile I suppose. Kind regards HS.

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Would love to comment but I have "points" against me now, for simply asking why a Field report was removed.

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Just out of idle curiosity, are there any threads here that don't contain an oblique reference to JRC, regardless of whether he contributes to the thread or not?

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Just out of idle curiosity, are there any threads here that don't contain an oblique reference to JRC, regardless of whether he contributes to the thread or not?

Nope. Haven't you heard what a leg-end he is?

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Nope. Haven't you heard what a leg-end he is?

Ah, but better than being a fag-end though surely?

I seriously think there should be a competition to see who can drag his name in on any thread on the flimsiest of pretexts, using the usual thinly-veiled sneering innuendo.

I cordially invite all the usual suspects to participate and I fully expect a rush of friendship applications following this well considered post.

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I quite like the the thing about 'the site that should not be mentioned'. It reminds me of Harry Potter and Voldermort lol. Perhaps I am just a warped child, but the whole thing of not mentioning it directly makes me giggle a bit.

Having said that, when I first joined this site I was given some very helpful advice on how to create my own free website, which has been invaluable and I do remain greatful. What you might find HS is that a lot of the girls that you would like to comment on do have a dedicated site that you would be welcome to pass on via these boards. Take time to double check on their profile and you might find your solution.

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Well thanks for the clarification, fwiw. I suppose everyone has to make their own decision. Some threads are for chatting. Some are to give useful info. So one makes up one's own mind if the effort in contributing is appreciated sufficiently to make it worthwhile I suppose. Kind regards HS.

I'm guessing that what Galahad and the mods are after is a reduction (to zero?) in the threads that discuss the generalities of "the site that cannot be named" (e.g. "Timewasters on ....", "Flirts on ....", "Best girls for £100 on ...." etc). I doubt that there is any intention to limit discussion of individual service providers who advertise on "the site that cannot be named" as long as posters are circumspect about naming their main advertising presence and don't end up blatantly touting (feel free to set me straight though mods, we are still working on "hints" here ;)).

I suspect that a few newbies will get a bit confused about the cloak and dagger veiled references, as we have all become used to blatantly namechecking the site over the past few months, but when I joined punternet 18 months ago, cloak and dagger was pretty much the status quo and I managed (I quite enjoyed cracking the code tbh).

Personally, I think it's all a bit odd, but it's not my site and I'm happy to comply by the rules if thems the ones that G wants us to play by.

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Well some good points are made. My opinions are the same, but I'm not throwing a hissy fit over it as things are never black and white.

The main strength of Punternet IMO is the opportunity to discuss punting and punting related issues openly with WGs. Most similar sites are either predominantly male or predominantly for women or else thinly disguised fanbases. Of course, some would argue that PN is the last of these, but the range of views and overall quality of interaction puts it streets ahead of the smaller operations.

The other strength of PN, again just IMHO, is its focus on London. And for this I often recommend it to punters enquiring on other forums. I mention (or have mentioned, though without checking I think I still do) and recommend both Punternet and SAAFE on my own A---W profile for instance. For some ladies it also offers the opportunity to interact with other WGs in an open environment (ie esp one that includes males, and quite a range of them).

While not a 'strength' of the site as such, another benefit for me has been meeting one or two rather interesting people. I'm not talking cyberfriends. But yes, it is possible to discover friends and so on, people that you might enjoy being with face-to-face, on this site as on many others.

The weaknesses of PN for me (and I italicise this so as to express my view without encouraging discussion) are that the FRs which are highly respected generally are en bloc misleading in the area I happen to live simply by omission - as they cut out most of the main saunas as I have said before, even if it is by their own request or whatever backstory that there is no need to go into again here. (Ironically, as Edinburgh has traditionally had perhaps the most tolerant parlours attitude in the whole of the UK.) The other weakness is that IMO it fails considerably in its own 'providing information' remit by ostracising the dubious but nevertheless principal player, A---W. The reasons for ostracising may be good or not; but the effect is factual, not moral or a matter of opinion.

The end result from my pov is that I won't stop posting (which would be childish) but probably post a lot less - which also fits in with my necessary m/o of spending a lot less time on the forum. So I hope no offence is taken at my views expressed here.

Kisskate - since I recently praised your 'assertive' handling of an issue that concerned you personally (on which you are expert) I should perhaps re-state my position in view of your kindly but in this case totally off-beam suggestion on a matter in which I am far more expert - my double checking of profiles of ladies I know and so on. You are on shaky ground as you are commenting on an area that I do know about and which you do not. And I maybe research profiles rather more thoroughly than most. FYI, of the many ladies of my acquaintance, only one of them has her own independent site, which she created after our most recent encounter, and definitely after I had placed two field reports (about 1000 words each) on the 'other' site. Even if it had pre-dated my reports, I had found and contacted her via the 'other' site, not her own website. So to be disingenuous merely to leave a PN FR strikes me as morally suspect. I have told her I will consider doing a PN FR after our next meeting since that will have been made in full awareness of both profiles.

I'm not going to reply to the condescending and patronising remarks, but I recognise yours (and Northwinds') was both kindly meant and with upright intention. The cloak and dagger thing is indeed quite funny. I just felt it was going a bit far and so I snapped. While it might seem like an overreaction, it was certainly not an ill-informed or unjustified one. I hope most can accept that we can agree to differ on things without going nuclear. If they can't, I will indeed as Smiths so delicately suggested, fuck off, as can the totalitarian troglodytes who are entitled to their views without me afaiac. I'll do what I think is right and in accordance with my inclination. The mods will do what they're told. Ho hum.

:)

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Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I was just making a suggestion of how people could get hold of your recommendations. I didn't realise that the fact that you met them on that site was all that mattered, or should I say the main point?

Surely if what you are wanting to do is contribute and pass on your experience, it is irrelevent where you initially found them, if they have a website that can be used, therefore nothing to stop you?

However, I can understand your frustration with the ones that are only on there. Having said that, I don't know many wgs who don't at least advertise on at least one other site as many are free.

Lastly, I wasn't trying to make you suck eggs, but was trying to be positive and helpful.

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I seriously think there should be a competition to see who can drag his name in on any thread on the flimsiest of pretexts, using the usual thinly-veiled sneering innuendo.

Lol. I think BristolBBWClaire would win that hands down.

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