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Guys, what you consider giving a WG a second chance after you had had a bad or average punt with her after being given a personal recommendation that she had changed by someone you trust, or read positive FRs and/or positive feedback on here?

How many chances would you give an Establishment after having a similar average or bad punt with a WG they have on their books? Do you view it that because the Establishment has other ladies to choose from, its worth punting with others, or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

Ladies your contributions are very welcome.

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If she is gorgeous, then yeah I might, given that she has better reviews. If she was average or ok then no, I wouldn't chance it.

I would give the establishment the benefit of the doubt, that it was just a bad one off, but fool me twice and they are black listed.

Punts are too expensive for a student to just throw caution to the wind. I remember the good girls and places.

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Guys, what you consider giving a WG a second chance after you had had a bad or average punt with her after being given a personal recommendation that she had changed by someone you trust, or read positive FRs and/or positive feedback on here?

Einstein's definition of insanity was "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". Clearly he was an experienced punter :D.

I think I'm a pretty good judge of character and if I walked away after a punt that I felt was sub-standard, it would probably be due to some kind of attitude problem. I doubt therefore whether I could ever be persuaded to return, despite glowing recommendations from others. I think I can usually spot the difference between someone simply not trying and someone having an unusual off day.

But there again, I live in London and I am pretty much spoilt for choice ;).

How many chances would you give an Establishment after having a similar average or bad punt with a WG they have on their books? Do you view it that because the Establishment has other ladies to choose from, its worth punting with others, or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

Ladies your contributions are very welcome.

That's a different matter. I have only visited HoD the once, and had a distinctly average punt with a lady who was only employed by them for a short while (I'm guessing I wasn't the only customer who wasn't over-impressed). I was however very impressed by the friendliness and efficiency of the receptionist/maid. I also loved the flat and HoD's reputation makes it clear that my experience was atypical. It's only a matter of time before I do revisit (as long as they don't close first !) and I certainly don't feel any resentment towards the place whatsoever.

There's a place down the road from me though that operates a bait and switch operation (22 year old Japanese girl my arse !). I won't be giving them a second chance ;).

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Guys, what you consider giving a WG a second chance after you had had a bad or average punt with her after being given a personal recommendation that she had changed by someone you trust, or read positive FRs and/or positive feedback on here?

How many chances would you give an Establishment after having a similar average or bad punt with a WG they have on their books? Do you view it that because the Establishment has other ladies to choose from, its worth punting with others, or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

If I had a bad punt with a girl I would never under any circumstances see her again, once bitten twice shy. ;)

If I had a bad punt in a brothel I would not hold it against the establishment, if I could I would let the owner know ------ of course that would not always be possible.;)

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If I had a bad punt with a girl I would never under any circumstances see her again, once bitten twice shy. ;)

If I had a bad punt in a brothel I would not hold it against the establishment, if I could I would let the owner know ------ of course that would not always be possible.;)

What he said except if in the first circumstance it was a third or fourth visit and the others had been fine I might try once more to see if the quality returned.

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Guys, what you consider giving a WG a second chance after you had had a bad or average punt with her after being given a personal recommendation that she had changed by someone you trust, or read positive FRs and/or positive feedback on here?

How many chances would you give an Establishment after having a similar average or bad punt with a WG they have on their books? Do you view it that because the Establishment has other ladies to choose from, its worth punting with others, or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

Ladies your contributions are very welcome.

No, I doubt I would give a girl a second chance.

The most is that she may end up as a maybe. But with so much choice about I doubt Id ever get that far that I'll see her again.

There has been one or two girls who Ive had a bad punt with despite new glowing reviews and feedback, but they havent even made it back on the maybe list anyway.

Establishment I would give a second chance. Unless its something the establishment specifically did like they do bait n switch, then I cant hold something the girl does against them. Why would any (good) establishment want you NOT to come back? Yes Ive had bad punts at Hod but that aint stopped me coming back time and time again.... ;)

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No, I doubt I would give a girl a second chance.

The most is that she may end up as a maybe. But with so much choice about I doubt Id ever get that far that I'll see her again.

There has been one or two girls who Ive had a bad punt with despite new glowing reviews and feedback, but they havent even made it back on the maybe list anyway.

Establishment I would give a second chance. Unless its something the establishment specifically did like they do bait n switch, then I cant hold something the girl does against them. Why would any (good) establishment want you NOT to come back? Yes Ive had bad punts at Hod but that aint stopped me coming back time and time again.... ;)

Yes, you would have the snagging suspicion it was you that was the problem.;)

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Yes, you would have the snagging suspicion it was you that was the problem.;)

Well if I was the problem then I definalty wouldnt go back as I cant change myself... ;)

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A couple of times I’ve had below-average punts with girls who are new to the business. I vowed never to book them again but ended up revisiting them a year or two later (admittedly when no-one else was available) and they had improved.

I once visited a new parlour and had a disastrous punt. Unbeknown to me, the establishment had a laissez-faire attitude towards services and charges. I ended up having a punt where the action was periodically interrupted by “Kissing’s extra, luv”, “Oral without is another twenty, darlin”, "It's five pound per finger, you rascal". I swore never to revisit that parlour ... and I kept my word until it changed management.

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I once visited a new parlour and had a disastrous punt. Unbeknown to me, the establishment had a laissez-faire attitude towards services and charges. I ended up having a punt where the action was periodically interrupted by "Kissing's extra, luv", "Oral without is another twenty, darlin", "It's five pound per finger, you rascal". I swore never to revisit that parlour ... and I kept my word until it changed management.

That reminds me of my poorest punt of the last 12 months. I was at a parlour I have visited several times, and the lady didn't clarify extras upfront. This is fine, as girls at this parlour charge fixed for extras which I am familiar with.

However, during the session she kept interrupting and quoting charges for standard services - kissing was £10, then RO was £10, and OWO was £10 (expected). By this time, the intimacy had gone as it was more like a business negotiation. She was charging for services that are standard at this parlour. She stated that every girl is different. No dear, the other 5 girls I had seen at this parlour were consistent. She then said that CIM was £20 with everything else thrown in. After pretending to mull it over, I said "oh go on then". So in the end it turned out not too bad.

I will not give her a 2nd chance as next time she may get her maths right but I have continued to use this parlour without reservation. I have had some great punts, and there are many other girls on their rota who have even better FRs than the ones I have already met.

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That reminds me of my poorest punt of the last 12 months. I was at a parlour I have visited several times, and the lady didn't clarify extras upfront. This is fine, as girls at this parlour charge fixed for extras which I am familiar with.

However, during the session she kept interrupting and quoting charges for standard services - kissing was £10, then RO was £10, and OWO was £10 (expected). By this time, the intimacy had gone as it was more like a business negotiation. She was charging for services that are standard at this parlour. She stated that every girl is different. No dear, the other 5 girls I had seen at this parlour were consistent. She then said that CIM was £20 with everything else thrown in. After pretending to mull it over, I said "oh go on then". So in the end it turned out not too bad.

I will not give her a 2nd chance as next time she may get her maths right but I have continued to use this parlour without reservation. I have had some great punts, and there are many other girls on their rota who have even better FRs than the ones I have already met.

Reminds me of an Indie last year, on the phone it was £100 all in, when i got to hers it was extra for everything apart from shagging her. I asked to use her toilet and she said no problem, thats £10.;) I declined and left without paying. This quibbling is a real passion killer to me.;)

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If the punt was poor cos of obviously poor attitude, never. However if the girl was new, and just a bit lost, I would go back in a few months. Some girls do improve, others remain hopeless. Once you find a decent parlour, no real need to give a crap one yet more money.

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Guys, what you consider giving a WG a second chance after you had had a bad or average punt with her after being given a personal recommendation that she had changed by someone you trust, or read positive FRs and/or positive feedback on here?

How many chances would you give an Establishment after having a similar average or bad punt with a WG they have on their books? Do you view it that because the Establishment has other ladies to choose from, its worth punting with others, or is it a case of once bitten twice shy?

Ladies your contributions are very welcome.

Pure coincidence -- I have just been asked for a ' second chance '. I thought I had agreed a Sat 12.00 noon apointment, turned up in the area, rang-- no answer, sent text --- no answer -- decided to leave.

Half an hour later, the girl rings to apologise, says she did not check my confirmatory email that morning. To be fair I was annoyed and didnt ask her why she had not in any event answered her phone or text at 12.00 and just brought the conversation to a halt.

Sent an email 2 days later, when I was more relaxed, and got a response to the effect that honestly she had not preferred me over another client but had felt lazy and stayed in bed and will I please book again and this time there wont be a problem. She's only 20 -- should I turn a blind eye and book again or forget her ?

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Reminds me of an Indie last year, on the phone it was £100 all in, when i got to hers it was extra for everything apart from shagging her. I asked to use her toilet and she said no problem, thats £10.;) I declined and left without paying. This quibbling is a real passion killer to me.;)

That is going a bit far, are you sure she wasn't joking? I don't know how girls cope with having to charge extras and keeping count of what extras have been done and then having to ask for it at the end? I guess it's different at parlours if they have no choice? Would you pay the girl or the receptionist?

Do you go to the place knowing that you will probably pay £20 or £30 more than the basic price?

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I only make repeat visits to girls that I have a really good time with and tend to see the same 2 or 3 with an occasional new one for a bit of variety and extra excitement.

I've recently been stood up twice by the same girl, first time with a text 40 minutes before the appointment and the second time nothing, didn't show up, didn't answer her phone. I wont be trying to see her again.

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Pure coincidence -- I have just been asked for a ' second chance '. I thought I had agreed a Sat 12.00 noon apointment, turned up in the area, rang-- no answer, sent text --- no answer -- decided to leave.

Half an hour later, the girl rings to apologise, says she did not check my confirmatory email that morning. To be fair I was annoyed and didnt ask her why she had not in any event answered her phone or text at 12.00 and just brought the conversation to a halt.

Sent an email 2 days later, when I was more relaxed, and got a response to the effect that honestly she had not preferred me over another client but had felt lazy and stayed in bed and will I please book again and this time there wont be a problem. She's only 20 -- should I turn a blind eye and book again or forget her ?

Erm, I have to ask, you are not related to Tarquin are you?

Have you hear the expression "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"?? In your case its setting yourself up for "fool me thrice"!! Leave it.

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In principle, I would give a girl a second chance, though in reality I doubt it would ever happen. There are just too many girls on the wishlist that I wouldn't be prepared to relegate in favour of a 'risky' punt. Plus, the reason for the disappointing first punt might be that we just didn't click, in which case there's no point wasting time on doing it again.

Establishments are different of course. So long as there's a basic level of honesty, discretion etc.

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Erm, I have to ask, you are not related to Tarquin are you?

Have you hear the expression "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"?? In your case its setting yourself up for "fool me thrice"!! Leave it.

Yes I think you are right and having been bitten , to go again alters the equilibrium of the punt too.

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Part of the fun for me is the anticipation of a punt with a new girl or with a girl with whom I've had a good time previously. I think it would detract from the occasion for me to be visiting again someone where I have been previously disappointed--no great anticipation there.

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That is going a bit far, are you sure she wasn't joking? I don't know how girls cope with having to charge extras and keeping count of what extras have been done and then having to ask for it at the end? I guess it's different at parlours if they have no choice? Would you pay the girl or the receptionist?

Do you go to the place knowing that you will probably pay £20 or £30 more than the basic price?

She was being serious no doubt about that. I go to a punt believing the fee agreed on the phone in a clear concise manner at the time of booking, often same day in my case is the fee i will actually be charged unless i ask for extra services outside her/their standard fee or want to extend the booking.

The lady doesnt ask for the money at the end in most cases, you tell her what services you want and pay her upfront as normal. If i decide on a chargeable extra service at some point into the punt i have usually paid her immediately, but i stick with all-in fees nowadays most of the time. I pay the lady direct in all scenarios i punt in apart from parties where its the practice to pay the host.

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Hopefully, as a retired lady, my tuppence worth should be believable and non touty.

The burden of course rests on the lady.

She, if having a bad day, nastiness happened, she should offer a discount or a freebie I've done this when aware I was appalling or down on the day.

Dance monkey, dance.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/4063/

.But you have to make her aware you weren't happy at the time, or send an email afte when less stressful, heat of the moment. Most women aren't about to bottle you for saying, "This isn't working for me - right now, can I just have half an hour please instead, I've had a terrible day and don't want that hour after all [No I haven't, but you're not making my bad day any better, but I need to roast you more]."

Attitude is all, any non crackhead or cretin would want regulars who trust you to deliver, be happy and non-moody. If the spark is there, follow up of course, logic dictates; if she is a mouthy heifer, go away. Follow the spark.

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Pure coincidence -- I have just been asked for a ' second chance '. I thought I had agreed a Sat 12.00 noon apointment, turned up in the area, rang-- no answer, sent text --- no answer -- decided to leave.

Half an hour later, the girl rings to apologise, says she did not check my confirmatory email that morning. To be fair I was annoyed and didnt ask her why she had not in any event answered her phone or text at 12.00 and just brought the conversation to a halt.

Sent an email 2 days later, when I was more relaxed, and got a response to the effect that honestly she had not preferred me over another client but had felt lazy and stayed in bed and will I please book again and this time there wont be a problem. She's only 20 -- should I turn a blind eye and book again or forget her ?

OK before deciding what to do here, why not sit back and put the shoe on the other foot. You didnt turn up for your booking, you wouldnt answer your phone and then you say "sorry but I felt lazy and stayed in bed". Do you really think she would give you another chance? No way, you would be blacklisted and she would not even bother to correspond with you anymore.

It has to work both ways, if either WG or punter is a timewaster then dont agree to meet with them again.

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OK before deciding what to do here, why not sit back and put the shoe on the other foot. You didnt turn up for your booking, you wouldnt answer your phone and then you say "sorry but I felt lazy and stayed in bed". Do you really think she would give you another chance? No way, you would be blacklisted and she would not even bother to correspond with you anymore.

It has to work both ways, if either WG or punter is a timewaster then dont agree to meet with them again.

The newbie client/escort relationship is pretty brittle -- one false move and its over,even before its begun !;) As neither party knows the other, susicion abounds-- when it goes wrong, the hatchet comes out pretty quick. The trust is broken and there isnt enough substance to pull thru. I have responded politely, particularly as she is young and said I would leave it at that and wished her the best.[ It did trouble me that I had confirmed the booking by email rather than phone, although she clearly did ignore my call and text at the booking time. ]

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I've given second chances in the past and it hasn't worked out.

Once it was unintentional. I booked a girl not realising it was a someone that I didn't think too much of when I had seen her a month before. When she opened the door, I think my mouth dropped. She even remembered my name. I could have left then and there but I thought it might be ok (yeah, i was a dumb young fucker then).

It was not. She made me scream in pain at her OWO (for some reason she was using her teeth!) and had to literally push her head away, with the hope she hadn't drawn any blood!

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