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i went to a massage parlour and when I was in they said would you like a massage I said yes they said thats £10 please I said please can I see the ladys before just to see whats on offer? they where like no you have to pay £10 before you can see them, so I paid then saw the ladys I didnt like any so I decided not to have a massage I asked for my £10 back and said I dont want one they said no so I left £10 Less they kept my money? Is that a scam or is it normal?

I would also add that I still some times go to that parlour but I ring up before to see how many girls are working how much choice there will be then its a bit hit and miss but some times they have some decent girls working I just take the chance and If you do go for a massage they normally treat you well.

what should you do in that situation?

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i went to a massage parlour and when I was in they said would you like a massage I said yes they said thats £10 please I said please can I see the ladys before just to see whats on offer? they where like no you have to pay £10 before you can see them, so I paid then saw the ladys I didnt like any so I decided not to have a massage I asked for my £10 back and said I dont want one they said no so I left £10 Less they kept my money? Is that a scam or is it normal?

I would also add that I still some times go to that parlour but I ring up before to see how many girls are working how much choice there will be then its a bit hit and miss but some times they have some decent girls working I just take the chance and If you do go for a massage they normally treat you well.

what should you do in that situation?

They were clear with their terms and conditions up front and you agreed to this, if this is how they work you could have chosen to go elsewhere, not many places opperate like this but those who do, do it for good reason, time wasters who just turn up to gawp at the ladies.

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This is the sort of practice that needs stamping out, Don't go back.

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Think you should name and shame to protect others. Personally, I would have walked keeping the £10 in my pocket.

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i went to a massage parlour and when I was in they said would you like a massage I said yes they said thats £10 please I said please can I see the ladys before just to see whats on offer? they where like no you have to pay £10 before you can see them, so I paid then saw the ladys I didnt like any so I decided not to have a massage I asked for my £10 back and said I dont want one they said no so I left £10 Less they kept my money? Is that a scam or is it normal?

I would also add that I still some times go to that parlour but I ring up before to see how many girls are working how much choice there will be then its a bit hit and miss but some times they have some decent girls working I just take the chance and If you do go for a massage they normally treat you well.

what should you do in that situation?

I think you should name and shame them.

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This Is how many parlours used to operate, you had to pay an entrance fee, usually through a steal barred gate, before being allowed In to see the ladies.

Vote with your feet, and go elsewhere If your not happy.

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Look on the bright side, you only lost a tenner - mind you that would annoy me too.

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i went to a massage parlour and when I was in they said would you like a massage I said yes they said thats £10 please I said please can I see the ladys before just to see whats on offer? they where like no you have to pay £10 before you can see them, so I paid then saw the ladys I didnt like any so I decided not to have a massage I asked for my £10 back and said I dont want one they said no so I left £10 Less they kept my money? Is that a scam or is it normal?

I would also add that I still some times go to that parlour but I ring up before to see how many girls are working how much choice there will be then its a bit hit and miss but some times they have some decent girls working I just take the chance and If you do go for a massage they normally treat you well.

what should you do in that situation?

If I understand your post correctly you've been back since the £10 incident, so you'll know it's not a scam as such, and Jkay's probably right that it's to discourage window shoppers, but I'd have asked for my £10 back after my next visit (although I wouldn't have gone back!) Like others, I don't think it's acceptable and the possibility of hacking off potential customers for a paltry £10 must surely outweigh having to live with the occasional window shopper.

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Jkay’s probably right that it’s to discourage window shoppers, ... the possibility of hacking off potential customers for a paltry £10 must surely outweigh having to live with the occasional window shopper.

I think you and JKay are right. However, I wonder how many guys would decide to stay and see a girl - even an unattractive one - rather than waste the tenner. Personally, I would have walked. Too many alarm bells ringing.

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yeah I have been back since but like I say I phone before and ask how many are there if theres like two or three forget it but if theres a selection like 5-7 then some times its worth it and you can find a few gems in there that do look after you. I wasnt happy that they took my £10 and I made it quite clear about that and I told them I would go else where and they where loosing a customer.

and if you want to know where it was it was at Lady Ks in Leicester on Abbey street also known as Trudys, but now they changed there name again to Divine Destination I think

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I've been to a couple of places that have adopted this policy. Omega in Kentish Town and the old Executive Sauna in Cardiff. In both cases there was a good selection of girls, except for Omega during the day.

I've heard from a couple of people on the boards that if they know you as a regular then they'll often give you your £10 back if there's nobody who takes your fancy.

I would imagine that the practice is dying out due to increased competition.

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I think you and JKay are right. However, I wonder how many guys would decide to stay and see a girl - even an unattractive one - rather than waste the tenner. Personally, I would have walked. Too many alarm bells ringing.
But my point is if, as is suggested, some guys just walk with the intention of just ogling the girls, then this will cost them £10, but unless it's really rife wouldn't the parlour be better in the long run off just living with it?

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But my point is if, as is suggested, some guys just walk with the intention of just ogling the girls, then this will cost them £10, but unless it's really rife wouldn't the parlour be better in the long run off just living with it?

I think that most parlour girls accept it as part of the job. Certainly that's what I've been told. Assuming that's the case then I can't see why the owner/manager would want to discourage punters from visiting.

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i went to a massage parlour and when I was in they said would you like a massage I said yes they said thats £10 please I said please can I see the ladys before just to see whats on offer? they where like no you have to pay £10 before you can see them, so I paid then saw the ladys I didnt like any so I decided not to have a massage I asked for my £10 back and said I dont want one they said no so I left £10 Less they kept my money? Is that a scam or is it normal?

I would also add that I still some times go to that parlour but I ring up before to see how many girls are working how much choice there will be then its a bit hit and miss but some times they have some decent girls working I just take the chance and If you do go for a massage they normally treat you well.

what should you do in that situation?

All you can do if bothered enough which you dont appear to be seeing as you have been back is to vote with your feet and not give them your business. I have experienced similar over the years and chalked it down to experience, unfortunately punting has no regulator to complain to.

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The old style Saunas/parlours have charged entrance fee for years, Annies In Luton you had to pay £45 minimum at the door before you met any lady, others you have to pay £10-£20 entrance, I havn't been to parlours like this for years, as I prefer to see who I'm gonna shag first. :rolleyes:

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Straight answser: No it is not a scam! The £10 is commonly called "door money" and I'm surprised no one else gave it its name!

The second question which follows is "Is this a good business practice?" and the answer seems to be a resounding "No!"

Scorpio in Edinburgh takes £20 off the punter at the door for a half hour and £25 (I think) for 45 minutes (No full hours allowed), and at this point only one girl is visible, but I'd guess that if the punter was sober and not threatening, he'd probably be allowed to go through the door and have a quick shufti into the parlour at the talent available.

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I've had this at Caesers in sheffield, paid £10 at the door before getting in. But I think there it's partly because there's actually more on offer than just the ladies, sauna, showers, porn cinema and the like.

I can agree that it must be annoying for the owners of establishments when they let someone in the door and they just know that this person is going to walk away after having a good look at the semi nekkid talent. But I for one have never been back to Caesers since then, especially as they have no rota or pictures of the ladies on their website (At least they didn't have then, it was a few years ago so things may have changed)

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One of my local parlors has a £10 door fee policy after 6pm, however it clearly states on their website the £10 is refunded if you don't choose anyone.

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This Is how many parlours used to operate, you had to pay an entrance fee, usually through a steal barred gate, before being allowed In to see the ladies.

Vote with your feet, and go elsewhere If your not happy.

I would not describe this practice as a "scam" -------- however it is not something that should be encouraged.

I used to go to a sauna in Kentish Town called "Omega" and you had to pay £12 through a small window before being let in -------- no refunds if you didn't choose a girl. :rolleyes:

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This is the sort of practice that needs stamping out, Don't go back.

Rubbish!!!!

Unfortunatley every establishment has its hard core gawpers, they come to "see" the ladies but only stay maybe once in every 20 gawp. They leave saying is that all you got. The next week they come on the same day, meet the same ladies and stay for 20 minutes, the next week they come on the same day, meet the same ladies and complain that all the ladies are mingers.

If you dont like the rules then do not visit, simple, but you have no right to try to dictate the rules an establishment is run by.

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Think you should name and shame to protect others. Personally, I would have walked keeping the £10 in my pocket.

He was told it was 10.00 to meet the ladies, this is adopted by quite a few establishments to weed out the people who just want to have a look then go and have a wank in their car, a lot of places do deduct the 10.00 from the money owed if you decide to stay with one of the girls though.

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Its a total con, you dont pay to go into Tesco do you !!

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Its a total con, you dont pay to go into Tesco do you !!

This is true, perhaps the ladies should all start going into walk in,s fully dressed, baggy tshirts and jeans etc, or in their dressing gowns, that is one way to get rid of the gormless gawpers i guess, wonder how many guys would start complaining about that though lol.x

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this is adopted by quite a few establishments

which should be avoided.

its a total con, you dont pay to go into Tesco do you !!

Quite.

Unfortunatley every establishment has its hard core gawpers, they come to "see" the ladies but only stay maybe once in every 20 gawp. They leave saying is that all you got. The next week they come on the same day, meet the same ladies and stay for 20 minutes, the next week they come on the same day, meet the same ladies and complain that all the ladies are mingers.

Tough. It's called business. I get hard core gawpers in my business but I treat everyone who comes through the door as a potential 'sale'. Some of them are extremely annoying but I do not treat everybody badly just to discourage window shoppers. You are totally within your rights to refuse entry to serial timewasters but not to disadvantage everyone who walks through the door.

If you dont like the rules then do not visit, simple, but you have no right to try to dictate the rules an establishment is run by.

Large parts of the commercial sex industry is run in the belief that the punter has no 'rights' to receive a civilised and value-for-money service but that he is there to have his wallet rifled. If the industry is ever to enjoy respectability, this is the sort of practice that needs to change. For god's sake, it is a service industry but, far too often, it is akin to highway robbery.

Personally I only use independents and if I so much as get the slightest hint of this sort of attitude, the deal is off.

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If guys just want to gawp at semi naked ladies then why not go on the internet :rolleyes:

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