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What prompted this post is an escort in Newcastle; busty Susie, who advertises in quite a few places. She was the first escort I ever saw, and over the years I've noticed that she has never, or rarely updated her photos. And on her profile on the other site, she NEVER gets any feedback and it remains at zero. Now her services are really limited, which is fair enough I guess, she can offer what she wants, but she advertises everywhere, and even has two or three different names on the SAME site or ad page! That's the behaviour that really confuses me. And why after all this time would she not wonder why nobody is seeing her, and leaving positive feedback?

I know this is a really specific example, but I've seen quite afew others who do the same, and I just don't get it Over time it just shows that their heart isn't in it at all, otherwise you'd think they'd have up to date pics, make a fresh start etc and start getting positive feedback. It's a shame because with this particular woman has huge boobs, was pretty cute, and had quite a sexy voice but offered such limited services and has an odd approach to advertising herself....and doesn't see it.

What are your views on this? Have you seen someone like this in the past who you still see is advertising? Am I the only one who thinks it's kind of depressing? I rather see them stop altogether, it's like they've trapped themselves into a routine that they don't want to be in. Or maybe I'm just being cynical.

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What prompted this post is an escort in Newcastle; busty Susie, who advertises in quite a few places. She was the first escort I ever saw, and over the years I've noticed that she has never, or rarely updated her photos. And on her profile on the other site, she NEVER gets any feedback and it remains at zero. Now her services are really limited, which is fair enough I guess, she can offer what she wants, but she advertises everywhere, and even has two or three different names on the SAME site or ad page! That's the behaviour that really confuses me. And why after all this time would she not wonder why nobody is seeing her, and leaving positive feedback?

I know this is a really specific example, but I've seen quite afew others who do the same, and I just don't get it Over time it just shows that their heart isn't in it at all, otherwise you'd think they'd have up to date pics, make a fresh start etc and start getting positive feedback. It's a shame because with this particular woman has huge boobs, was pretty cute, and had quite a sexy voice but offered such limited services and has an odd approach to advertising herself....and doesn't see it.

What are your views on this? Have you seen someone like this in the past who you still see is advertising? Am I the only one who thinks it's kind of depressing? I rather see them stop altogether, it's like they've trapped themselves into a routine that they don't want to be in. Or maybe I'm just being cynical.

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Not updating pictures is laziness and misleading if the WG has changed since they were taken in my view. This using of different names that come back to the same WG and clearly isnt for safety and security reasons is also misleading but a widespread practice which a number of the great WGs i have punted with were doing, when i asked why, the usual response has been to hopefully attract different punters to their other profile/s so giving them more chance of getting punters overall.

Feedback is a different matter IMO, i have punted with many great WGs off A/W who had none and either continued to have none or very little right up till their profiles disappeared. I have had about 500 punts off A/W and never given feedback, i am only interested in punting with those with phone numbers on their profile so dont need to log-in to locate those i am interested in. I view all feedback with a huge pinch of sort off their and only personal recommendations from punters i trust and reading FRs and/or posts on here do i view as in any way credible.

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Good post.

During our 8 years in Milton Keynes running House of Divine we were always trying to get girls to understand the value of recent photos and field reports.

Some girls seemed to think it was acceptable to have photos that were 5 years old when they were that much younger and 2 dress sizes slimmer. We even put on their profiles that the pictures were old and their correct dress size, but even this public 'shaming' would not change their view. I think it was, "well I looked hot then" so I will just leave them be. Sadly this didn't look good on them or us.

Personally I think photos should be changed every 3-4 months, anything over 9 months old is deceptive IMHO. However you cannot enforce such rules and you have to rely on the girls business sense to see the benefit of such pro-active marketing.

Now field reports and customer service in general is another issue. A narrow minded or perhaps mentally immature girl will see a client as £60 there and then and give him a service as such. She won't think about him after the service and is probably spent that £60 mentally before the service is finished. A sensible girl will see a client and be thinking, "if I am nice to him this client could be worth £600+ in a year".

I think more clients should look at the girls reports and the numbers before spending their money. It's not always the prettiest girls that get the most reports. Anyone that has met Petra in Milton Keynes will agree she is not glamorous or blessed with model looks, I am sure she won't mind me saying this. However look how many reports she has and what the clients actually say about her. She and a few others are VFM. The same could be said of the late great Devon, you probably wouldn't look twice at her in the street but she was without doubt the finest escort to have graced HoD in it's history with the exception of 'Robyn'.

Never trust an agency or indie who only has reports from first time users.

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I can see why some girls like to leave their favourite photograph up, but must agree it can be misleading.

It could well be laziness and thinking is it worth it. You see many sites where the girl says she is 22, 25, 29 or 32. Are they lazy in not changing this too?

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Good post.

During our 8 years in Milton Keynes running House of Divine we were always trying to get girls to understand the value of recent photos and field reports.

Some girls seemed to think it was acceptable to have photos that were 5 years old when they were that much younger and 2 dress sizes slimmer. We even put on their profiles that the pictures were old and their correct dress size, but even this public 'shaming' would not change their view. I think it was, "well I looked hot then" so I will just leave them be. Sadly this didn't look good on them or us.

Personally I think photos should be changed every 3-4 months, anything over 9 months old is deceptive IMHO. However you cannot enforce such rules and you have to rely on the girls business sense to see the benefit of such pro-active marketing.

Now field reports and customer service in general is another issue. A narrow minded or perhaps mentally immature girl will see a client as £60 there and then and give him a service as such. She won't think about him after the service and is probably spent that £60 mentally before the service is finished. A sensible girl will see a client and be thinking, "if I am nice to him this client could be worth £600+ in a year".

I think more clients should look at the girls reports and the numbers before spending their money. It's not always the prettiest girls that get the most reports. Anyone that has met Petra in Milton Keynes will agree she is not glamorous or blessed with model looks, I am sure she won't mind me saying this. However look how many reports she has and what the clients actually say about her. She and a few others are VFM. The same could be said of the late great Devon, you probably wouldn't look twice at her in the street but she was without doubt the finest escort to have graced HoD in it's history with the exception of 'Robyn'.

Never trust an agency or indie who only has reports from first time users.

You bring up a point i dont understand. If you were unhappy with the lady you were offering work toos pictures why didnt you say if you dont update them we wont be offering you anymore work? Saying that might make her get them done or she leaves and you simply find a replacement, or were/are they so good as WGs that you can live with the situation? I note you say you cannot enforce such rules, but you can choose not to offer a lady any work if her not having accurate pictures makes you look bad surely?

I personally never trust any first time FR but we all have to start somewhere. Your point about looks echoes with me, i look for attitude, friendliness and enthusiasm first, then services on offer, her looks might lure me in and even get me to part with my cash once but if her attitude is not good or better she wont be seeing me again.:confused:

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at Bunnies of London we make sure the girls get their pictures updates regularly and they know that if they have any major changes then new pics are must. :confused:

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at Bunnies of London we make sure the girls get their pictures updates regularly and they know that if they have any major changes then new pics are must. :confused:

In light of Divines post how do Bunnies make sure the ladies get their pictures updated reguarly, what happens if they dont?;)

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at Bunnies of London we make sure the girls get their pictures updates regularly and they know that if they have any major changes then new pics are must. :confused:

How do you enforce this ?

We actually paid for our girls photos too but even that was not enough incentive for some as they knew they bared little resemblance to their initial shoot and were obvious aware of this or perhaps even embarrassed.

As I stated we left the photos on their profiles but clearly indicated when they were taken. The client could not complain they were being deceived, not that we as an agency were happy about this.

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Something that I think a lot of the guys aren't aware of is how difficult it can be to get listings on a third-party site updated.

If it's your own website or a listing on 'the other site', then you can edit yourself and do it within minutes. But I am also listed on lots of third-party listing sites and all you can do is email the webmaster and ask him/her/them to update your listing. Many take forever to do this, or don't bother at all.

It's often just as frustrating for us as it is for you, because the calls come in asking 'Is that right, you're 35?' or whatever and when you correct that the caller is left with impression that your advertisement was deliberately misleading.

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How do you enforce this ?

We actually paid for our girls photos too but even that was not enough incentive for some as they knew they bared little resemblance to their initial shoot and were obvious aware of this or perhaps even embarrassed.

As I stated we left the photos on their profiles but clearly indicated when they were taken. The client could not complain they were being deceived, not that we as an agency were happy about this.

I dont think resposibility can be avoided by pointing out by the technical arguement that the photo is out of date. The reason a photo is used is to give the potential client a very good idea of the looks of the lady. If it is not representative, then it should be removed and a representative one inserted in its place.

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Something that I think a lot of the guys aren't aware of is how difficult it can be to get listings on a third-party site updated.

If it's your own website or a listing on 'the other site', then you can edit yourself and do it within minutes. But I am also listed on lots of third-party listing sites and all you can do is email the webmaster and ask him/her/them to update your listing. Many take forever to do this, or don't bother at all.

It's often just as frustrating for us as it is for you, because the calls come in asking 'Is that right, you're 35?' or whatever and when you correct that the caller is left with impression that your advertisement was deliberately misleading.

Spot on Claire. I've had guys think I'm being misleading too in the same situation. If they'd seen up dated details they'd have been fine about visiting and we can't do anything about it.

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I think it helps to remember that escorts on here are generally well-organised and have pretty good internet access. This isn't the case for everyone and is not necessarily an indicator, especially if the WG is part-time. A favourite of mine had had pics up from 18 months ago and no feedback for a year. But as she's only 20 the pics you'd hardly notice the difference. I've impressed on her that some feedback is useful and she's started asking customers to leave some, which in the case of the other site also means getting them to put it through the booking system rather than her more convenient method of screening and making arrangements by phone. I think every punter develops some rules of thumb when looking who to book, but as none of us are omniscient it helps to remember that such rules are only generalisations, especially if we are giving hints to newcomers perhaps.

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What prompted this post is an escort in Newcastle; busty Susie, who advertises in quite a few places. She was the first escort I ever saw, and over the years I've noticed that she has never, or rarely updated her photos. And on her profile on the other site, she NEVER gets any feedback and it remains at zero. Now her services are really limited, which is fair enough I guess, she can offer what she wants, but she advertises everywhere, and even has two or three different names on the SAME site or ad page! That's the behaviour that really confuses me. And why after all this time would she not wonder why nobody is seeing her, and leaving positive feedback?

I know this is a really specific example, but I've seen quite afew others who do the same, and I just don't get it Over time it just shows that their heart isn't in it at all, otherwise you'd think they'd have up to date pics, make a fresh start etc and start getting positive feedback. It's a shame because with this particular woman has huge boobs, was pretty cute, and had quite a sexy voice but offered such limited services and has an odd approach to advertising herself....and doesn't see it.

What are your views on this? Have you seen someone like this in the past who you still see is advertising? Am I the only one who thinks it's kind of depressing? I rather see them stop altogether, it's like they've trapped themselves into a routine that they don't want to be in. Or maybe I'm just being cynical.

:confused:

I've heard of some ladies saying they don't need reviews, or to update their photos as they already have enough regular business.

Could this be true?

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This also gives rise to the notion that having great and numerous reviews and recent pics can be as misleading as a blockbuster movie which, despite having all the rave reviews and publicity, turns out to be a flop.

I have on several occasions punted with girls like this and come away feeling more disappointed than anything else. The reviews can turn out to be nothing other than her little fan club yelling from the rooftops and her recent pics can, like the big movie, be sneakily showing all the best bits.

I recently punted with Sienna from Victoria House who’s pics must easily be about 4 years old (I remember them from back in the day of HoD) and she has barely any reviews. But my god is that girl a goddess or what. She was gorgeous back when she first came to escorting but now she is a total stunner. Her tits two sizes bigger, deep dark tan and a dramatic main of long hair - WOW! As I said to her at the time, all her new punters are in for a real surprise when they turn up to find her even better than expected. I suppose it all boils down to the fact than if you've got it you don't have to try too hard.

Like with most things in life, you have to combine a variety of factors when deciding to see an escort, past experience, word of mouth on message boards, calling and asking the right questions etc. I am no expert but the lack of a few reviews and recent pics does not deter me and never would. However, if I did happen to get it drastically wrong and an utter moose answered the door or came into the room, I would simply walk.:confused:

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How do you enforce this ?

We actually paid for our girls photos too but even that was not enough incentive for some as they knew they bared little resemblance to their initial shoot and were obvious aware of this or perhaps even embarrassed.

As I stated we left the photos on their profiles but clearly indicated when they were taken. The client could not complain they were being deceived, not that we as an agency were happy about this.

Did you not control what went on your website?

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How do you enforce this ?

We actually paid for our girls photos too but even that was not enough incentive for some as they knew they bared little resemblance to their initial shoot and were obvious aware of this or perhaps even embarrassed.

As I stated we left the photos on their profiles but clearly indicated when they were taken. The client could not complain they were being deceived, not that we as an agency were happy about this.

My logic tells me its enforced by insisting the lady has up to date photos to your satisfaction or tell her you wouldnt be offering her any work. The lady is a self employed person you offer work to, if she doesnt meet your criteria you have no obligation to just accept the lack of up to date pictures, or am i wrong about how all this works? I would also like to hear how Bunnies of London achieves this.:confused:

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What prompted this post is an escort in Newcastle; busty Susie, who advertises in quite a few places. She was the first escort I ever saw, and over the years I've noticed that she has never, or rarely updated her photos. And on her profile on the other site, she NEVER gets any feedback and it remains at zero. Now her services are really limited, which is fair enough I guess, she can offer what she wants, but she advertises everywhere, and even has two or three different names on the SAME site or ad page! That's the behaviour that really confuses me. And why after all this time would she not wonder why nobody is seeing her, and leaving positive feedback?

I know this is a really specific example, but I've seen quite afew others who do the same, and I just don't get it Over time it just shows that their heart isn't in it at all, otherwise you'd think they'd have up to date pics, make a fresh start etc and start getting positive feedback. It's a shame because with this particular woman has huge boobs, was pretty cute, and had quite a sexy voice but offered such limited services and has an odd approach to advertising herself....and doesn't see it.

What are your views on this? Have you seen someone like this in the past who you still see is advertising? Am I the only one who thinks it's kind of depressing? I rather see them stop altogether, it's like they've trapped themselves into a routine that they don't want to be in. Or maybe I'm just being cynical.

:confused:

Because the industry is so vast, with a mix all shapes, sizes, services and those who purchase are equally as varied then it figures that ways of advertising will also be vastly different. There are escorts I know, from those who have no feedback, rarely update images, have rare FR's, through to having no websites, etc., who all run successful businesses and have regular clients.

New FR's, web pics, etc., all bring in new enquiries and extra cash but if you are limited to the amount of new work you can take on then is it sensible to be over marketing yourself unecessarily ? If you take the previous as a given then how would you view the escort who promoted herself on every website, constantly added new images to her site and always wanted feedback/FR's ?

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Because the industry is so vast, with a mix all shapes, sizes, services and those who purchase are equally as varied then it figures that ways of advertising will also be vastly different. There are escorts I know, from those who have no feedback, rarely update images, have rare FR's, through to having no websites, etc., who all run successful businesses and have regular clients.

New FR's, web pics, etc., all bring in new enquiries and extra cash but if you are limited to the amount of new work you can take on then is it sensible to be over marketing yourself unecessarily ? If you take the previous as a given then how would you view the escort who promoted herself on every website, constantly added new images to her site and always wanted feedback/FR's ?[/QUOTE]

I would view her positively and on top of her game. I see no downside interpretation to any escort constantly reviewing and changing her website and adding exciting new photos --- nothing negative at all. !! On the otherhand , a lady who doesnt bother [ because she doesnt need to ] updating her site for ages would put me right off. I would suspect, rightly or wrongly., that her attitude to me as a client might be ' am I bovered '.

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I like to have new pictures taken every 3 - 6 months and put them at the start of my gallery but the pictures after that are anything up to 2 years old as if I like them I just add new pictures without removing some of the older ones ;)

I do believe that feedback is a good thing and helps clients decide if I am the type of lady they want to see and the guys who want particular services see I don't provide it by my honest likes list on the other site :D

All ladies work and run their websites and profiles how they see fit though :confused:

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Isn't it interesting how some guys say they like a lady who keeps her ads, website etc up to date. Others see it was being too professional, trying too hard or simply she hasn't enough business so there must be something wrong.

Can't win whatever you do.

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Isn't it interesting how some guys say they like a lady who keeps her ads, website etc up to date. Others see it was being too professional, trying too hard or simply she hasn't enough business so there must be something wrong.

Can't win whatever you do.

The last bit is the punter's misjudgment imo I don't see any valid reason to have misgivings about those things.

It's simple really pix need to be updated if they make a material difference ie misrepresent the reality. I'm not bothered about 'obsolete' pictures as long as nothing important has changed, and the age displayed is accurate. Changes in size, tatts, fake tits etc is when it essential for an update.

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Isn't it interesting how some guys say they like a lady who keeps her ads, website etc up to date. Others see it was being too professional, trying too hard or simply she hasn't enough business so there must be something wrong.

Can't win whatever you do.

I would suggest Ruth that that is very much a minority view.

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I've heard of some ladies saying they don't need reviews, or to update their photos as they already have enough regular business.

Could this be true?

Of course it can. The last 3 years I worked, I had more than enough regulars to keep me busy. I can't remember getting a new review in that time either.

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I dont think resposibility can be avoided by pointing out by the technical arguement that the photo is out of date. The reason a photo is used is to give the potential client a very good idea of the looks of the lady. If it is not representative, then it should be removed and a representative one inserted in its place.

The point was (no longer an issue as we do not trade in MK) but we had no up to date images.

Should we have sacked the girl, given her an ultimatum ? Is it her right to work with whatever images she sees fit ? If a girl get no negative feedback or complaints should we have asked her to leave just because she refused to get new photos? What would you have done ?

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Did you not control what went on your website?

Of course but the only other option was to remove her profile altogether as she/they were providing no new photos.

What would you have done? Offering girls such ultimatums is tricky as her actual service which is what you the client is paying for was faultless. The issue was one of marketing potential not if they were actually good at their job or not.

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