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Do post feminist working girls ever think charging men for sex is immoral?

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After all there are two sides to most agruments...

Do girls feel that sex/social intercouse with them is worth as much as they charge?

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My view on both sides of this is that sex is never wrong as long as both/all people involved are adult living humans who are capable of giving (and have given) informed consent.

Some of the behaviour around it may be immoral (for example, lying to a partner about your sexual activity outside the relationship) however that is for each individual to make peace with on their own. I don't make my clients' home lives my business, and I don't consider sleeping with men who are married and supposed to be monogamous to be unethical. I'm doing my job, they sought me out, and that decision is one that they have to live with. If I lied to my fiance to do my job then I would personally feel that it was an immoral decision and would either have to live with that or change my ways.

So, short answer - I don't feel that any part of my work is immoral or unethical and if I started to feel differently, I would change my habits so that I was comfortable with it. I think that's the best way to be - without guilt ;)

EDIT: As for worth as much as we charge, I don't see what that has to do with anything. Prices aren't a moral issue, they're a business decision. And yes, I do think my rates are very reasonable.

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EDIT: As for worth as much as we charge, I don't see what that has to do with anything. Prices aren't a moral issue, they're a business decision. And yes, I do think my rates are very reasonable.

Wine, women and song!

I can't sing to save my life, so lets look at wine!

A bottle from Majestic can cost £3-99, and one from Berry Bros & Rudd up to £***. Some, but by no means all, of the high priced vintages are very much nicer than the cheaper ones, and certainly than the cheapest.

The cost of the grapes, harvesting, casks/vats, plus the glass bottle, cork and label don't really cost that much, and are much the same for plonk as for a grand vin. The price that the estate, negociant or other producer pitches the wine at is a careful calculation based on the name and reputation built up over previous years, modified by the quality and quantity made of this year's! If he pitches the price too low, he's losing money, if he pitches it too high he may lose out to the man down the road.

I have a feeling that very much the same applies to the level of "donations" that a lady asks for?

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What the hell is a "post feminist working girl"? ;)

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What the hell is a "post feminist working girl"? ;)

No idea, but their stance is here

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No idea, but their stance is here

So, slobbing about in your pants and interfering with yourself is post feminist.

I am post feminist and proud! ;)

*Makes banner*

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No idea, but their stance is here

How ever did you find it? Absolutely brilliant!

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How ever did you find it?

Well it's all rather boring really, I just selected "Images" in Google and searched for "post feminist" and there it was as the 3rd picture offered, strange but true.

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Well it's all rather boring really, I just selected "Images" in Google and searched for "post feminist" and there it was as the 3rd picture offered, strange but true.

That's amazing Holmes.;)

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So, slobbing about in your pants and interfering with yourself is post feminist.

I am post feminist and proud! ;)*Makes banner*

Me Too!!!!!!!!

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After all there are two sides to most agruments...

Do girls feel that sex/social intercouse with them is worth as much as they charge?

My solicitor (Female but with whispy beard) charges £125 to send a letter or email. If she replied to this thred no doubt she would charge the same.

That seems OK generally to society.

We do charge a little more usually but I think you'll agree the work is a little more involved.

We spend time naked with a stranger, often in a strange place, at risk of violence, and at the mercy of every lunatic that might want to harm us.

We put ourselves at risk of rape and beatings almost daily and in some cases several times a day.

We sometimes walk an emotional tightrope and have to keep an intense watch on our state of mind, and deal not only with being outcast by the world and his supposed "prim and proper" wife but sometimes with keeping huge secrets from those around us.

We lay our morals out to be picked over by societies vultures who have their own hidden agendas and sexual issues. They point and whisper, pity and condecend to salve their own demons.

Laying back and opening ones legs is easy. Dealing with the emotional vamperity of the escort business takes a hell of a lot of professionalism and strenth.

Personally I think we charge too little for the deeply involved complex pshychological and physiological service we perform.

Has anyone asked a plumber if he thinks he charges too much?

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We live in a free market (well mostly) so you charge what the market will bear, if its too much you lose business, too little and you are perpetually busy but going nowhere (a principle I seem to manage to have adhered to in my business for far too long!).

I suppose I am a fluffy in that I love WGs for their honesty (mostly) and service to mankind so I don't really do the endless analysis so many on here seem to enjoy indulging in - to me it's a business transaction, I need something doing, they supply it, we agree a price and I get the service. We both walk away happy. As long as all concerned are as a previous poster said, doing it voluntarily then all is well but rightly - as, we should not accept any situation where it isn't voluntary.

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My solicitor (Female but with whispy beard) charges £125 to send a letter or email. If she replied to this thred no doubt she would charge the same.

"To attending you at the telephone: long call £100" ?

(+ vat of course)

Has anyone asked a plumber if he thinks he charges too much?

You've heard this one before, but I think it is so good that I'll bore you with it anyway (sound familiar?):

Man has leak in pipe - calls plumber, who arrives quite soon and fixes problem in well under the hour. Hands punter bill for £450. Punter says, "My God! £450 for that? I'm a brain surgeon and I don't make that much!" Plumber replies, sympathetically, "No, I know! That's why I gave up surgery and took to plumbing!"

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"To crossing the street to speak to you: 2 Guineas

To seeing that it was not you: 17/6"

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"To crossing the street to speak to you: 2 Guineas

To seeing that it was not you: 17/6"

My learned friend is too good!

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"To crossing the street to speak to you: 2 Guineas

To seeing that it was not you: 17/6"

you forgot to charge for the eye test

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I'd say I agree with Krystal you are more or less spot on. Sex should neve really be wrong I look at it as something of a biological sacrament and it is a pity there is so much shame surrounding it.

I think the only aspect I depart from you Krystal regards the notion of having married men as clients. Whilst I pretty much hold the same view as you in that it is ultimately the unfaithful parties responsibility I also believe we do not live in a vacuum. Looking at it causally if you enable a sin to happen that otherwise wouldn't then you ultimately take on part of the Karma for that act. One can separate oneself from such intellectually, but the fact remains there is a causal link between wg's who enable men to stray and the men (whose fault it ultimately is).

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I'd say I agree with Krystal you are more or less spot on. Sex should neve really be wrong I look at it as something of a biological sacrament and it is a pity there is so much shame surrounding it.

I think the only aspect I depart from you Krystal regards the notion of having married men as clients. Whilst I pretty much hold the same view as you in that it is ultimately the unfaithful parties responsibility I also believe we do not live in a vacuum. Looking at it causally if you enable a sin to happen that otherwise wouldn't then you ultimately take on part of the Karma for that act. One can separate oneself from such intellectually, but the fact remains there is a causal link between wg's who enable men to stray and the men (whose fault it ultimately is).

Bull. If I said 'no married men' then all that would happen is either they would go to a different lady, or they would take off their wedding ring and not mention their wife. It would be a different matter if I was actively persuing them, but I don't. I put up my ad and unless you're actively looking for a prostitute you aren't going to come accross it. They have gone out seeking sex, and they will find it. Even if every escort in the world said no married men, they would just have to lie to us the way they lie to their wives.

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I do not feel that selling sex or paying for sex is morally wrong. I do feel that sometimes people commit morally wrong acts within the sphere of our industry, punters and girls alike but as a whole it is not immoral.

I have never understood why feminists are so against prostitution. I can understand when it comes to the traffiking and degredation of women by men or other women but when it comes to independent women i see no issue. If a female can stand on here own two feet, with no help required from a man, pay her bills, her rent, pay for the upbringing of her children and keep her family together surely this is the kind of strong female that the feminists hail too. Any woman in any job other than prostitution is held in high esteem by feminists if they are capable of that which i have mentioned above, but bring the word prostitute into the equation and they all run for their megaphones and declare us destitute, downtrodden,used,abused,degraded,exploited, they are simply incapable of coming to terms with the fact that a female would actaully chose this way of life. If all women are as equal and strong as men in their eyes then why do they chose the contradictory belief that women who sell sex are victims. We are using what we were given, i see it as a womans right to do what she wishes with her body, a feminist belief also, i just do not understand why they constantly fall at our hurdle.

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One of my favourite quotes from Sex and the City, as said by Samantha:

"Sex is power, money is power. So exchanging sex for money is simply an exchange of power."

If someone has an issue or feels guilty for doing this (on either side of it), then they should get out of the game.

Now as far as married clients, well I will admit that I have had an internal debate many times with myself about this. I use to feel guilty about it, but after talking to a friend of mine about it, he helped put into perspective.

He told me that sooner or later, we all sell ourselves in one way or another. And it's true, at some point in your life you will do something that goes against your before established principles. People's reasons for doing this will vary.

For me the only thing that matters is that I can look at myself in the mirror and feel alright about my life, and I do.

If a day comes when I no longer can, then I will stop what I am doing and re-asses things.

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