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Discrimination on grounds of race

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I have never been more shocked at an FR in my life.

http://punternet.com/frs/fr_view.php?recnum=98837

Finding a racist escort is expected but for an entire agency to basically say no nigg*rs is quite shocking:mad:.The FR made me research thai treatment of black people in thailand and it was quite sad to see how blacks are treated as second class citizens.

I was thinking of visiting a few PSE thai escorts in london.So wanted to ask if there are any non-racist thai girls.

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I have never been more shocked at an FR in my life.

http://punternet.com/frs/fr_view.php?recnum=98837

Finding a racist escort is expected but for an entire agency to basically say no nigg*rs is quite shocking:mad:.The FR made me research thai treatment of black people in thailand and it was quite sad to see how blacks are treated as second class citizens.

I was thinking of visiting a few PSE thai escorts in london.So wanted to ask if there are any non-racist thai girls.

I would think the agency was just covering for the individual WG in question here. I mean, they've got about 50 girls listed, they're not all Thai and they can't all be racist?

At the end of the day though, Thailand, like many Asian countries isn't the most racially diverse (in comparison to the west) so you're bound to encounter a bit more ignorance with regards to people who aren't asian. This said, it even works between asian people. I was shocked when in Hong Kong on how Filipinos are regarded! I suppose no different to us in the west though historically. See the treatment of the Irish in Britain.

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I def think you should have phrased the thread title differently. I'd even go so far as to suggest the mods close it or re-title it. Or allocate it to an existing thread where this subject has been discussed at great length on a number of occasions.

Firstly to your own experience or the FR:

I think the FR poster was quite correct in saying that girls (not agencies) are best to be upfront about it if they do not accept certain persons of specific ethnic origins. That in itself is not wrong or racist in my opinion, but it does avoid embarrassment (I have seen notices in Thai brothels saying sorry, no Arabs. Similarly some Japanese bars do not serve foreigners and it is because they are embarrassed that they do not understand foreign etiquette and probably don't speak English either. This is about good manners and being as polite as possible while standing one's ground. It is not about racism. Working girls are not a government agency or a public service that have to service anyone. They let people fuck them at their choice. Otherwise it is not much short of coercion.)

Second point is, don't fight racism, or perceived racism, with more racism. The thread title implies that Thai escorts are racist, which is not true and IMO a tad offensive and racist in itself, It characterises a whole race as having an objectionable characteristic.

The subject has been done to death. I hope the mods close thread. Meanwhile, if your ethnic origins or anything else are statistically likely to cause a problem - just as if I were arranging a drinking session in Japan - you phone ahead and check first. Don't hide behind a perceived slight when you are not making an effort. End of. It's called manners.

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It's called manners.

Absolutely spot on. I second the motion!

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My First Post and sadly on a negative note.

I rarely post but I'm an avid reader of posts and field reports on the escorts that I am considering seeing.

What has struck me is in particular the amount of racist escorts that I have read about on Punternet and the othersites.

In particular the case of field report FR98837.

The reason this has struck me as noteworthy, is the case of oriental escorts whom seem to practice discrimmination base on skin colour quite frequently.

Mainly on Black Men, I'd sugest you read said FR before commenting.

Why should a Black Man have to tell the agency before he books that he's Black?

If the women in question do not wish to see a Black Man (or any other race for that matter) they should put it on there websites.

Lets put it another way..Imagine your a White Man who shows up after arranging via the agency or the woman in question.

You show up there are frowns or frantic phone calls to 'get out of' meeting said client.

The excuses I have heard and read are numerous, all are pathetic and cowardly.

Surley they should just state on there website I DO NOT SEE BLACK MEN I DO NOT SEE ASIAN MEN .

However because they are afarid of being labelled racist they don't.

Furthermore, before the usual gibberish of ' I had a bad experience with Black Men' etc start to perculate this discussion,I would like to draw an analogy...If your in a car accident and your hit by an Asian Man, does that mean you should stop driving in Asian populated areas?

It's pathetic to see and humilating to expereince I'd imagine.

Escorts ust be clear about what your offereing and to whom.

Finally, the poor man that wrote the FR in question if you read this you did the right thing by outing Oliana Escorts and in particular Natee.

I wonder how many more cases of this happen and go unreported?

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I know this is a talked about subject but i do feel sorry for this bloke if this actually did happen to him what a wasted journey.

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there is already a locked thread on this subject

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I'm always sad to see reports like this.

FR98337

As money was refunded and there was no action I guess the FR will be taken down.

A girl has the right to refuse any client but the agency needs to do better.

As someone who now checks that my age is OK with any girl advertising she is under 30, I wonder how i would get on if I was coloured.

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Coloured???

You mean you're NOT?

*tried to visualise completely transparent person - and fails*

Also, the report you mention has nothing to do with racial discrimination?

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I'm always sad to see reports like this.

FR98337

As money was refunded and there was no action I guess the FR will be taken down.

A girl has the right to refuse any client but the agency needs to do better.

As someone who now checks that my age is OK with any girl advertising she is under 30, I wonder how i would get on if I was coloured.

Are you sure about that FR number?

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I'm always sad to see reports like this.

FR98337

As money was refunded and there was no action I guess the FR will be taken down.

A girl has the right to refuse any client but the agency needs to do better.

As someone who now checks that my age is OK with any girl advertising she is under 30, I wonder how i would get on if I was coloured.

Eh??

FR98337 now (020852Z Aug) has no connotation of colour prejudice, but only a sordid dispute as to whether she had thrush, or he was smelly (or both?)

Has the report commented on been deleted, and the number recycled?

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"There are knowables we know, and knowables we don't know . . ." and so on . . .

I had a bad experience of discrimination on grounds of weather. Ten minutes before time of outcall, she texted to confirm. Five minutes before time of outcall, it came on to rain cats and assorted dogs.

No money changed hands but I wrote a field report anyway. Not on here though.

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It is very common for a punter to ask to know the nationality of a WG before punting.

I also see ads from WGs specifying that they do not see certain ethnic groups.

Isn't this blatant prejudice? I can think of no other sector in life where such behaviour is so openly practised and above all considered to be "ok".

If this industry was all above board and legal would this be acceptable?

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It is very common for a punter to ask to know the nationality of a WG before punting.

I also see ads from WGs specifying that they do not see certain ethnic groups.

Isn't this blatant prejudice? I can think of no other sector in life where such behaviour is so openly practised and above all considered to be "ok".

If this industry was all above board and legal would this be acceptable?

NO it would not but we live in democracy WG have the right to see or state who they do not want to see as long as it does not cause offence goodluck to them.

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I think you'll find that in most cases it's not about colour of skin, but cultural attitudes to women.

In the cases where it is just blatant racism, would you really want to force a girl to see someone she's prejudiced against? I can't see that being a good experience for anyone.

Right or wrong, it's probably best left well alone. If you are from the planet Zog and a girls specifies that she doesn't see Zoggians, then it's best that you know and avoid isn't it?

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*tried to visualise completely transparent person - and fails*

That'd be me.

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The Race Relations Act doesn't apply to Prostitution - and it must never do so.

Every woman must, at all times, have the right to decide who she wishes, or does not wish, to see.

Forcing a woman to to see a man, whom she doesn't want to see, is known as Rape.

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That'd be me.

I'm pretty transparent too, Laura ; just hope my wife doesn't see through me. :confused:

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I think you'll find that in most cases it's not about colour of skin, but cultural attitudes to women.

In the cases where it is just blatant racism, would you really want to force a girl to see someone she's prejudiced against? I can't see that being a good experience for anyone.

Right or wrong, it's probably best left well alone. If you are from the planet Zog and a girls specifies that she doesn't see Zoggians, then it's best that you know and avoid isn't it?

Perhaps the lady doesn't like doing it Zoggy-style. :confused:

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I think you'll find that in most cases it's not about colour of skin, but cultural attitudes to women.

In the cases where it is just blatant racism, would you really want to force a girl to see someone she's prejudiced against? I can't see that being a good experience for anyone.

Right or wrong, it's probably best left well alone. If you are from the planet Zog and a girls specifies that she doesn't see Zoggians, then it's best that you know and avoid isn't it?

Good post. Even if this industry was fully regulated you couldnt force a WG to punt with a punter she didnt want to, unlike buying an item this involves a human being who holds their own views.

It must always be the ladies choice who she punts with, if it isnt IMO that makes her coerced and i certainly wouldnt want to punt with such ladies.:confused:

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It is very common for a punter to ask to know the nationality of a WG before punting.

I also see ads from WGs specifying that they do not see certain ethnic groups.

Isn't this blatant prejudice? I can think of no other sector in life where such behaviour is so openly practised and above all considered to be "ok".

If this industry was all above board and legal would this be acceptable?

After a range of disappointing experiences, I will not see a lady who is not British and happen to prefer ladies between 25-40. How is that racist?

Surely it is up to me to decide which lady floats my boat, or am I discriminating unfairly against some mis-understood and under represented group of working ladies?

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Also some ladies may not want to do *zorgs* as it brings added attention if she was say a independent and worked from her home and *zorgs* didn't usually visit her address so it would be more a matter of discretion than racism ................also *zorgs* may not speak english fluently and often end up knocking on the wrong door.

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These threads are very repetitive IMO and quite paranoid.

It is rude to demand anything. You're not claiming government pension rights for goodness sake.

Secondly, not to be picky, but some command of the language is never a bad thing - ignoring the fact that the OP was typing too quickly to spell 'racist,' the nationality is not what he's asking about, unless I've missed the point entirely. He means 'ethnic background.' A lot of people of all races have been born in Britain, are British, and might well resent the question without being able to give you the answer you want and be honest at the same time.

Some people might not like this, but those are the facts. Britain is a multicultural society with people of many ethnic backgrounds. Some of the refinements of English politeness may have been lost a bit, but you will not get far with rudeness - especially if you try to then justify it by calling others racist. If you have a question, find the way of asking it properly and be prepared for any answer.

I'm sorry, if I were a WG, I wouldn't shag you mate. Whatever the colour of your skin. And I would refuse to see you if I didn't want to see you, with or without legislation. Try to find a dating agency that forces people to go on dates and snog people they don't like - for whatever reason.

(And in practice these points hold true as well in my experience - the lady who runs one of the best parties in London is of Indian extraction - she refuses more Indian men than any other not because of race, but because they are rude.)

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I'm always sad to see reports like this.

FR98337

As money was refunded and there was no action I guess the FR will be taken down.

A girl has the right to refuse any client but the agency needs to do better.

As someone who now checks that my age is OK with any girl advertising she is under 30, I wonder how i would get on if I was coloured.

I assume you mean 98837 on a Natee of Olina Oriental Escorts posted by a first time author named Mikee537.

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