Is buying about to become illegal?

Paying for sex to an individual who is coerced to provide sexual services is already an offence. How many times has that legislation been invoked? Answer: two thirds the square root of tiddly squat.
Even if Boris manages to increase police numbers by 20,000 they will have better things to occupy their time than lurking around trying to identify punters who may have had a punt with an unwilling woman for, if the police know the women are unwilling, they should have rescued them already and locked up the Sergei's involved.
It follows that legislation to criminalise punters any further would require police, CPS and court resources out of all proportion to any benefit that could arise and could indeed drive the sex industry underground so much as to make matters for the coerced even more dangerous.

Several years ago a friend of mine, a former Assistant Chief Constable, said of the then Labour Govt. words to the effect "They [the legislators] haven't got a fucking clue about the sex industry. The one and only thing that matters to us is to protect people that are forced into acting against their will". My friend recently affirmed his view that the current legislation in some senses and perhaps in some actual cases persuaded punters not to report suspicions of coerced prostitutes.

Uncle Pokey

So what do you do with prostitution ? There isn't an easy answer to this.In the countries it is legal,it clearly isn't working.I could just picture it legal in our country.Prostitutes in red light districts would create more problems.They are treated as if they are victims,they are troublemakers who cause residents grief.They discard needles,condoms all over the place and cars driving round in the early hours of the morning keeping people awake.I lived in a prossie area years ago,looking back all they did was cause people shit.

There is one thing that would stop trafficking the government closes down VS and orders AW to remove all foreign profiles,that would just leave British escorts,Back to the good old days,which i preferred.

I could not ever see prostitution legalised in Britain because we now live in a multi cultural society,certain religions will never allow it and most people in Britain are uncomfortable with women selling themselves for money,that is the reality whether punters and escorts like it or not.

Punters will never tell their mates or relatives they see prostitutes because they know what their reaction will be,so too with escorts most of them hide their faces because of the shame off friends and relatives.On punting sites guys behind nicknames.

Really sums up the attitude of people towards prostitution in the UK.

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Quit ... except one place?

Charlie boy i really couldn't give a shit what you think of me Lol.Not one single punter on this site wrote any comments on the negative side of Adultwork only i did that,any half decent punter with half a braincell knows the feedback system is bullshit on AW.I am not a fan of parlours i would rather see escorts at their own flats.Trafficking is a big concern of mine,oddly enough many punters do not seem to care.I detest escorts who ask for deposits.

In the last week i proved my metal has a punter and put my money where my mouth is and named and shamed the fake Asian escort agencies who scam off punters.The information is there to warn punters to save their hard earned cash and use one of the seven legitimate Asian escort agencies.

Atleast i left my mark on this site,it was much better than leaving 200 fluffy reviews.

I still think the best way of punting is using escort agencies in London and The Phoenix Club because of its great VFM to fuck real hot girls £160 for 2 hour events.I live miles away from London.


My advice to other punters

Punting isn't rocket science if a punter books an escort and the area is a bit iffy,she isn't very friendly,can't be bothered to make herself look sexy or an ugly munter

Walk on the bitch!

If you stay,go through her services before you put the cash in her hand.That has served me well more often than not.

Human Rights Commission. This body may or may not be able to wield some influence with the current

I pray that this doesn't happen. It would be terrible to us punters. Sweden often has important men arrested and fired from their public jobs for this. Sex workers want legalization, this is a purely feminist law (look who's pushing it), and discriminates against men (the buyer). I'll post an example below



[www.thelocal.se]

[www.dailyrecord.co.uk]

Looks like the start of the end for legal UK prostitution. Scotland talking about the nordic model, especially since now the Leeds red light district is closed. Dark times ahead. As a reminder all these 'criminalize buyer' are coming are ONLY coming from women. This looks like a gender war men are losing

Remember when they used to do that with 'Sunday Opening'? One could buy fruit, but not a ladder ... so they would charge £40 for an apple and throw in the ladder for free.

Paying for sex became illegal in N. Ireland a few years ago. I tracked the number of girls advertising, on popular sites, before and after the law was enacted. I expected to see a sharp drop, but no, numbers actually went up.

I have never seen any evidence that the 'Nordic Model' actually works anywhere it has been introduced or that it improves the lot of the working girls. Even in Sweden, where the police are actively go after punters, the sex trade is still thriving - just Google 'escort Stockholm' and you will find hundreds of girls working.

If the law is introduced in the rest of the the UK, we might want to be careful what we post. Phrasing like "A friend of a friend told me ...." may be needed.

dave451 Wrote:
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> Paying for sex became illegal in N. Ireland a few
> years ago. I tracked the number of girls
> advertising, on popular sites, before and after
> the law was enacted. I expected to see a sharp
> drop, but no, numbers actually went up.
>
> I have never seen any evidence that the 'Nordic
> Model' actually works anywhere it has been
> introduced or that it improves the lot of the
> working girls. Even in Sweden, where the police
> are actively go after punters, the sex trade is
> still thriving - just Google 'escort Stockholm'
> and you will find hundreds of girls working.
>
> If the law is introduced in the rest of the the
> UK, we might want to be careful what we post.
> Phrasing like "A friend of a friend told me ...."
> may be needed.

The proposed Online Safety bill could make it difficult to advertise here's a link to the bill ;
[www.gov.uk]

And a call to action from the English Collective of Prostitutes;

[prostitutescollective.net]



[prostitutescollective.net]



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[www.swarmcollective.org]

quote from above link:
Re the situation in Nordic Model Ireland:

Key findings of the review:

No decrease in the number of sex workers in Northern Ireland following the law change

56.7% of sex workers surveyed felt that the law had made sex work more dangerous, while 29.1% felt that it had made no difference to their safety

Sex workers reported “higher levels of anxiety and unease, and increased stigmatisation”

The legislation provided no new “exit” services for people wishing to leave sex work and no new funding for existing support services



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/06/2022 19:54 by YourSlavius.

In Scotland there is going to be another attempt to introduce the Nordic Model, see thread I made here:

[www.punternet.com]

oh,It's not illegal to have sex (yet?), so the girls will just sell you something else and throw in a quicky

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> oh,It's not illegal to have sex (yet?),


Here's a summary of the current law:

Ireland and N.Ireland: Nordic Model. Illegal to buy sex. Illegal for sexworkers to work together.

Great Britain: Legal for adults to buy and sell sex indoors. Illegal for sexworkers to work together.

In Nordic Model countries, it's actually very difficult to get convictions for clients who buy sex. Sexworkers are "almost always" unwilling to testify against their clients (see link below) and in Sweden the first 2,000 client arrests only resulted in 2 convictions. The sex trade still continues as usual in Nordic Model countries, but it does become more violent as is the usual case with criminalisation.

[hivlawcommission.org] page 38

> will just sell you something else and throw
> in a quicky

In the case of escorting, what you're paying for is the woman's time and companionship. If the Nordic Model is introduced and the police ask questions, that's all they need to know.

Looks like another set of election slogans kicked into long grass. It's not in the interest of anyone to stop men or women from the freedom to sell a service.

Oh dear, you forgot to take this money home with you. Oh well, I'll keep it safe.
Thank god you weren't paying for sex!

< n.ireland:%20Nordic%20Model.> The status of the law in N. Ireland is unclear. The bill included a clause that it should be reviewed after 3 years and, as far as I know, this didn’t happen. I’m not a lawyer, but anyone getting busted for buying sex there might argue that the law has fallen into disuse.

dave451 Wrote:
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> < n.ireland:%20Nordic%20Model.> The status of the
> law in N. Ireland is unclear. The bill included a
> clause that it should be reviewed after 3 years
> and, as far as I know, this didn’t happen. I’m not
> a lawyer, but anyone getting busted for buying sex
> there might argue that the law has fallen into
> disuse.


Government statistics.

From June 2015 to December 2018, there had been 15 arrests and two convictions for purchasing sex.
[www.justice-ni.gov.uk]

2 Convictions , probably a small fine.
Is it really worth the effort to criminalise it.

Thanks Captain, I wasn’t aware of this review by Queens Belfast. I haven’t read it all yet but it seems to be very thorough. Its conclusion is quite scathing about the Nordic model and its implementation in NI. Internet services have increased since the law came in and the two convictions were associated with much more serious crimes against WGs.

According to the report, the law has failed miserably in its own terms and this is consistent with the Nordic model in other places. In Stockholm, for example, there are hundreds of escorts advertising online. Despite the claims of Nordic advocates that it reduces prostitution. What seems to be happening is that street workers tend to move indoors, which has to be a good thing IMO, but more are joining or returning to the industry. The report doesn’t highlight any real benefits to the workers themselves, which was supposed to be a major selling point for the law.

dave451 Wrote:
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> Thanks Captain, I wasn’t aware of this review by
> Queens Belfast. I haven’t read it all yet but it
> seems to be very thorough. Its conclusion is quite
> scathing about the Nordic model and its
> implementation in NI. Internet services have
> increased since the law came in and the two
> convictions were associated with much more serious
> crimes against WGs.
>
> According to the report, the law has failed
> miserably in its own terms and this is consistent
> with the Nordic model in other places. In
> Stockholm, for example, there are hundreds of
> escorts advertising online. Despite the claims of
> Nordic advocates that it reduces prostitution.
> What seems to be happening is that street workers
> tend to move indoors, which has to be a good thing
> IMO, but more are joining or returning to the
> industry. The report doesn’t highlight any real
> benefits to the workers themselves, which was
> supposed to be a major selling point for the law.

Only 2 pages of escorts in Northern Ireland an Adultwork

If it`s that bad, see if Ryanair do £4.99 flights to somewhere like Manchester and have a good day out.