First time getting well and truly scammed

Had a short break from this site and punting but returned to action this weekend. I wasn’t planning on any punts this weekend either but got a late cancellation with my other plans and the sudden urge for a punt. Had a look on aw and sent a few texts out to see if anyone was available and a Romanian came back £120 for the hour +£40 for kissing. Wouldn’t usually pay that much but having had a few lack lustre independent Rom experiences in the past though they always at least finish me off, I thought the extra £40 would make booking better.
Arrived at the venue and the lady was really hot and same as photos so paid up the 160.
Less than 15 minutes in thought she got a phone call. After checking her phone she told me that I haven’t cum yet so no more. I can only presume that the phone call was another punter arriving at 11:30. Was tempted to ask for some money back but I didn’t want to cause a scene so left. Last time I will be seeing independent Romanian on aw.

What I should have done is waited outside for the next punter to arrive to tell him not to waste his money.

Roms are well known scammers and barebackers, seen a few myself

I had an OK, quite interesting visit to a Romanian three or so weeks ago, as I posted. But I'm phasing it out now. Not something I'm trying to do, it just happens naturally. The recent one was the exception. You can only have maybe 10 poor experiences in a row, maybe less depending on the individual, before you begin to lose interest. And there comes a point where you are fairly certain that the next one won't be much good either, and it's just not worth lifting the phone and starting with the hassle to waste money on a waste of time.

VS is actually getting worse. As of today there are around 40 adverts here, a few duplicated, and EVERY SINGLE ONE is a blatantly obvious fake, a mix of stunning supermodel types and Asian beauties. They've given up even trying to pretend to be legit. AW with their mostly no contact numbers and blurred images or hidden faces isn't much better.

I'm getting over my period of personal weeping and wailing for the pre Brexit and covid days. If the situation here then was 9/10 it's now 1/10. Or 0/10. Golden days, much missed. On the plus side, I know if things hadn't changed I'd be spending a lot of money to brighten up retirement, maybe £500 or £600 a month. Now I'll be spending that in about a year. So no thrills from the escort scene but I'm using the money saved to go on trips abroad, "normal" week long breaks, which are good. Fortunately I'm at an age when I can say with all modesty and truth that I've seen it all and done it all in much, much better times. If I was a lot younger it'd be less easy to quietly let it slide. But Punternet is still interesting to check out.

Yeah like I say, I’ve a few crap. Romanian punts already and should have learnt my lesson before, were I’ve felt they’ve tried to rush me out but I’ve never had a one as bad as this. Total time I spent in the house was 17-18 minutes. I guess she had another punter arriving at half past the hour but in which case I would much more appreciated being told that she can’t do an hour I would have been understanding and just pay for 30 minutes. Definitely regret now not hanging around on the street for the next punter to tell them not to bother but at the time I think I more so surprised by it.

If anyone is interested in the opinions of an agency who have worked with girls from all over the world for practically two decades, I would like to weigh in here. I dislike the criticism towards Romanian girls, simply because the same can be said for all girls, no matter where they are from. We have some bloody marvellous Romanian girls that have been with us for a number of years and offer a consistently good service.

No matter where they are from, sometimes there are good girls, sometimes there are bad ones. With respect, if you're going to book supposedly "independent" girls from AW and places like that, you do take a chance that the girl may be attempting to scam you. She may also have a pimp who is "managing" her bookings for her, and she may have to take on more than she wants to. Surely you need to ask yourself, if you meet a girl who can barely speak a word of English, and she can't really communicate with you, she isn't likely to have written the profile you just read on AW or wherever; and she may not have the first clue about the "services" she has written on that advert. I can't speak for all agencies, but ours in particular has a multi lingual team that can communicate effectively with the girls, to get a better idea about what they want written on their profiles etc. and we have recently embarked on a campaign to get a better idea about the "extra" fees the girls are charging, so the client can make a more informed decision about their booking. When you add all this information on the profile up, alongside the fact that the reception staff we have know the girls and their capabilities/availability, you have a much better chance of getting what you want. Referring to Peebles opening comment, the extra for kissing would have been made very clear on the girl's profile before you booked. And her behaviour wouldn't be tolerated for a moment; she would have been struck off the website, and (don't tell anyone) we would have probably refunded your booking fee following an investigation. Honestly, the difference between booking from a reputable agency, and booking an independent girl is huge!

Another good reason why booking from an escort agency is a good idea because clients have somewhere to feedback that will actually take some action (if it's a good agency). If you have had a bad experience, they can't actually do much about it, I grant you, but they can damn well make sure that it doesn't happen again; simply by taking the girl off their website. The girls soon learn that they can't scam clients, that they need to be honest about their appearance and services, otherwise they won't get listed anywhere.

So unless the girl is brand new on our site and you are the first to book her, we will already have a good idea whether she's trouble or not. Thus, we are mostly able to present girls that are genuine in most cases. Not all clients will feedback to the agency after a booking of course, but you can be assured that if they have a bad experience, they will most certainly let us know!

Not sure where you guys are booking exactly, but a trip to London and a good agency with talented receptionists, really will yeild a better experience. Ask for girls that the receptionist recommends to start with.

An interesting and well informed post Babylon, full of good information. Numerous times in relation to London and agencies I've signed off previous posts with the envious line, "You guys in and around London don't realise how lucky you are". And if you are down there as you say, go to an agency, case closed. It's the obvious and sensible thing to do.

I wish to fuck you could open a branch in my neck of the woods, or even 100 miles away, I'd be along there faster than a rat up a rone pipe. But here and no doubt across vast swathes of the country there are no reputable agencies, or any agencies at all. It's VS and AW or nothing. That's the choice. Take it or leave it. I pretty much tend to leave it now because after one waste of money outing after another the reality finally sinks in that the next crap encounter is going to be like all the others, barring a miracle which is unlikely to transpire.

I'd agree that "Romanians" shouldn't be singled out en masse for criticism. My last visit was to a Romanian, it was okish, at least by current standards, and as I wrote in a post she was quite interesting and pleasant. But again the reality is that the vast majority of escorts advertising on VS particularly seem to be Romanian, and Mr Peebles' experience is all too typical. There's no slur on their nationality. Poor service is poor service, and if they identify themselves as Romanian that's just a fact. I'm always a bit dubious about the "pimping" theory. In fact I believe it's grossly exaggerated. The ones I've met don't fit that mould. They usually travel around with a friend and far from being tamely under orders from a "pimp" they come across as hard nosed women who just don't give a shit what the client or anyone else thinks of them. And they're not, as Mr Peebles decided during his visit, the kind of female you're going to argue with. Definitely no pimp there I'd say.

A visit to London remains an aspiration but it's a long haul. Some day maybe. But for now in the provinces we are where we are, and compared with the golden days of four years ago before Brexit and covid led to a mass exodus of lovely Poles and other Eastern Europeans, it certainly ain't good.



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I totally agree with you Babylon that my experiences with agencies/parlours have been more positive than the aw independent escorts. My comment wasn’t necessarily a dog specificity at Romanians two of the best escorts I’ve seen are Romanian (working for agency) but it’s more just that there definitely seems to be a good amount of independent roms advertising on aw that all seem to offer the same lack lustre service with no kissing, not just no ow but no touching your dick without a Johnny whatsoever, no reverse oral but yet seem to want in and out as fast as possible. I largely try to stick to the agencies though that isn’t always possible as the good ones are over an hour away. I really just need to avoid the roms on aw though sometimes that easier said than done as there often aren’t many other to choose from on aw.

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They usually travel around with a friend and far from being tamely under orders from a "pimp" they come across as hard nosed women who just don't give a shit what the client or anyone else thinks of them. And they're not, as Mr Peebles decided during his visit, the kind of female you're going to argue with. Definitely no pimp there I'd say.

"Definitely" eh? Your conceptualization of both pimped women and the situation in Romania is way out.

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Nesslad
they come across as hard nosed women who just don't give a shit what the client or anyone else thinks of them.

Any woman raised in poverty who had to go into prostitution to support herself and her family would be "hard nosed". Pimped women are not quaking shaking wallflowers. They end up being very very tough. Of course they don't give a shit about what you think of them. Why would they? You don't give a shit about her or her humanity. That much is abundantly clear.

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I’ve felt they’ve tried to rush me out but I’ve never had a one as bad as this. Total time I spent in the house was 17-18 minutes. I guess she had another punter arriving at half past the hour

Oh boo hoo. They're just trying to rack up as much money as they can as quickly as they can. Yes, of course they want you to cum and fuck off ASAP so they can get the next one in. This is not because they are bad people. They are doing what they have to do to ensure their survival and the chance at a better life away from that four-storey slum in Bucharest. Of course, that's the best case scenario,- one in which a Romanian girl "chooses" (ha!) to go into prostitution to better her life. That's making the assumption (a big assumption) that they were not originally literally forced onto the game. It happens all the time over there. Even when they come to the UK and can theoretically walk away or walk freely into a police station- they don't know any other life...and they are supporting themselves and a family back home in the only way they can.

I have never met a woman who goes into prostitution for fun. British women don't, but there are big differences but between a low income UK girl and a Romanian in terms of poverty. It's highly unlikely a UK girl will have to support her extended family financially. It's far less likely that she will end up homeless. There is zero chance of her racking up medical bills for herself or her family. It's far less likely that a UK girl will be controlled by a criminal gang or have her family threatened if she doesn't comply.

If you lads had the sort of life these Romanian girls from the sticks have, you'd be "hard nosed" too.

You know what really is a scam? They fact that you eejits were lucky enough to be born in a country where you have enough money to be splurging it on getting your rocks off. You live lives of privilege and that privilege has made you lose empathy for other human beings.

"I have never met a woman who goes into prostitution for fun". So you have met women who go into prostitution then? You do crawl all over them when it suits you.

But then you come on here and start preaching to everyone about how horrible a business it all is. Very interesting. Half punter, half fucked up preacher. Guys like you do appear here now and again to air their tortured consciences. Sad cases really.

Come back anytime and ramble on about the poor womenfolk of Romania if it makes you feel better. They seem to be your favourites. But don't despise yourself for it. You could seek help. But I doubt if you'll find it here.

Can`t call it prostitution as the girls would be prostitutes - can`t call them that, got to think of another adjective.

Yes you got me there caveman. A slip up on my part, I was of course just referring to what the other guy said. But we can agree that escorts shouldn't be called prostitutes. End of.

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"I have never met a woman who goes into prostitution for fun". So you have met women who go into prostitution then? You do crawl all over them when it suits you.

But then you come on here and start preaching to everyone about how horrible a business it all is. Very interesting. Half punter, half fucked up preacher. Guys like you do appear here now and again to air their tortured consciences. Sad cases really.

I doubt there's many guys here like me.

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Come back anytime and ramble on about the poor womenfolk of Romania if it makes you feel better.

Thank you for your kind invitation, I will.

Yes, I've met many many working girls, including lots of Romanians. I've had conversations with them, normal honest conversations, about what their lives are like, and what it's like in Romania. I've also been to Romania for a holiday, not that that really gives a full insight. I recommend Romania to anyone. It's beautiful, and you can hire a local guide very cheaply for hiking and cycling trips- I expect that's very exploitative... but I did tip well and I didn't "crawl all over" her as you say- didn't touch her at all in fact- never got the urge despite how "poor" she was.

All "preaching" aside, my conscience is clear. I expect yours is too, considering you don't display standard human empathy.

But, please do carry on giving your expert opinion on a punting forum it's really very impressive, folks here must be in awe of you.

Well I'm in an easy going mood so I'll ignore the sarcasm. As regards posting, I'd just like to see more people contributing, as I've said before. I'm quite happy to sit back and read posts by others. But for some reason many people read but never post anything. If no one bothers posting, as happened recently for several days on end, we end up with no site.

OGShadylady, I’m sorry but I don’t understand your post? I’m not too sure you quite understand my post?

Let me be clear, my original post was basically a complaint about a recent punt to which I paid £160 for 1 hour punt, only to be told I have ran out of 10 minutes in. So escorts that provide this kind of service are good in your book as they are just trying to make a living?
So by that logic if for instance your boiler at home breaks down and you call a plumber who says he can fix but first needs to buy the parts and will need a £200 deposit for those parts and so after paying, you never hear back from that plumber again. You be like “yeah that’s perfectly fine! Plumber’s got to do what a plumber’s got to do to make a living.”

As I’ve said further up, I’m not having a dig at all Romanian escorts, I have have met a few and I too have exchange pleasantries with them. I myself have also also travelled to Romania on many occasions, never for punting purposes I might add. I have a Romanian relative. I know all about the poverty standards are in the country but there are other ways out of poverty than ripping people off.

I've just spent a week and a few k in London on this hobby and if I'd I thought Babylon could look after me I'd have booked with them. I think they are an OK agency. But most of the photos on diva and Babylon are not truly representative. I know if I pay 300 and book there's a 50% chance of disappointment. Trying to organise an outcall to a posh hotel with the language barrier with the girls is problematic. I just did a two hour outcall to a hotel bar and suite with two English girls from Bijoux and the agency and the girls were perfect. Met me at the bar like an old friend and provided a total experience. If I book with Diva or Babylon I might get two Russian hotties who work well together or I might get an a pair of average looking girls who can't provide what I did get the other day. I paid 1200 for a 2 hrs outcall and if I did that with Babylon or Diva I might get the same experience or I might not but I wouldn't have had the nuanced conversation plus the agency owner worked with me to make it the perfect duo. BTW Romanians via HOD have generally been good but for me via Babylon or Diva only the Russians and Ukranians live up to expectations. Brazilians are a new thing and I've seen Kaliba and Kunala from Babylon's books and they are both what Babylon is implying here- early 20s and beautiful. However, their lack of English and experience would mean even if they could work well together it wouldn't rival my English duo from last week!



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stick with agencys mate. saying that make sure they are a good agency as I know there are a few scam sites too. If it seems too good to be true it often is. Noir in leeds is pretty decent. really friendly and honest ladies on the phone and they know what they are talking about too.

Agency sites i`ve seen don`t list the services that an escort will provide, so if you want anal and DFK, how do you know if it`s offered?

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> Agency sites i`ve seen don`t list the services
> that an escort will provide, so if you want anal
> and DFK, how do you know if it`s offered?

Give the agency a call the lady on the end of the phone will give you escorts services list.