My thoughts/tips on high-end agencies

A few years ago I was wondering if high-end escorts were worth it. Check out that thread here: [www.punternet.com]

I've now sampled a variety of different agencies and high-end escorts, and thought I'd share some of my experiences, so you can learn from my mistakes.

Much like Modelfucker in [www.punternet.com] , I'm into “modelesque” women, and while we agree on some things, we differ on others. His thread excludes consideration of escorts >£500/hr, but I'm talking about them exclusively here (these days, it’s >£700).

1. The amount they charge is no guarantee of anything. The worst escort I ever had charged £700, was pretty good looking, but honest-to-God just didn’t like having sex or being seen naked. Refused to do anything other than under-the-blanked, in-the-dark missionary, and found the act of penetration and removal to be painful. The girls in this range can also be ugly or physically unfit.

2. That said, there are also mind-blowing stunners - true model types - in this price range that you’re simply not going to find down at the <£500 range. Maybe >5 years ago, but not these days I think.

3. You can’t tell what you’re going to get by looking at the profile pages on the agency websites. Those pages are almost always bullshit. The girl’s stats (age, height, dress size etc.) are, I believe, so wildly unreliable they may as well just be random numbers. Think “5’3” size 6 22” turning out to be 5’9”, size 12, 30+. With few exceptions, you can’t rely on the pictures to give you an idea of what they might look like. I always knew they were heavily retouched (especially on the lower-end agency sites), but they have no shame in retouching a heavy-set girl with rolls of fat in to a slim-looking model.

4. Which means you need un-retouched selfies to pick a girl, rather than risk it on based on the public profile; and it’s a big risk with this kind of money. Most high-end agencies don’t offer these on the website by default, and some models will have their faces blurred/cropped out as well. With a number of the high-end agencies, you get access to selfies simply by becoming a customer of theirs. Some you can pay for “VIP” access before you book someone. Dollsandroses is in-between, where the money they charge you for VIP access is credit you can use to make bookings later.

5. Don’t waste any of your time looking through their websites; as mentioned before the profiles are bullshit, and some agencies (dollsandroses is a big offender here) don’t remove girls who have left or mark them away. Once you’re a customer or VIP, just secure-message them and ask for selfies of all their available girls who meet your tastes. Be specific in your requirements. Pick from amongst their recommendations.

6. But can you trust the agency booker? In some cases no; they haven’t always met the girls in-person. Try and get more photos if you’re not sure. Sometimes you can reverse-image-search the public profile photos and find more photos of the girl, some with less retouching, sometimes with more selfies. Beyond that, hopefully you’re able to find an agency booker you do trust, that consistently sends you girls you like. But not every girl is on every agency, and the girl of your dreams might be exclusive to an agency you don’t trust (yet). Will you take the risk?…

Over the years I think I’ve had more bad experiences than good ones, but my most recent punt was so amazing it made it all worth it, and inspired me to write this post.

A unique sort of beauty, perfect model figure, kind, indulged my personal fantasy perfectly, was charming, sensual, passionate, and gave the ultimate feeling of what it would be like to date a cover model who was also the ultimate girlfriend. It may have cost £1000, but easily the best punt I’ve ever had. And yes, I’d say she was better than 5 lesser punts with £200 girls, especially when I don’t have time to get away to London for 5 punts in a year.

Of all the high-end agencies I’ve used, I only trust one, so I’ll recommend them to you: aprov. They choose not to use heavily-retouched photos for the most part, will happily send selfies, and their booker is friendly, professional and timely.


If you’ve had good high-end experiences, please do comment some details.

Just because someone might be £500 an hour doesn`t guarantee they are any good.
Plenty of girls will fuck your brains out for £150 and leaving you needing a cup of tea and a lie down afterwards.

Captaincaveman69 Wrote:
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> Just because someone might be £500 an hour doesn`t
> guarantee they are any good.

Exactly my first point, yes.


> Plenty of girls will fuck your brains out for £150
> and leaving you needing a cup of tea and a lie
> down afterwards.

Sure. Depends on what you what. If you just need flesh, pay as little as possible. If what you want isn't available on the low end, paying more can be worth it.

Not sure what's to learn from this post, apart from risk, retouching and "bullshit" pictures. I'm sure all new info is welcome but I can't see very much of use here. It doesn't relate to me however as I would never pay these high end prices anyway. £700 an hour, or more than £10 a minute. £1,000 an hour, around £16 a minute. Really? Only for those who literally can afford to burn money for a laugh. If I did ever go to £500 on the day I got a bad medical diagnosis and was told I'd only a week to live I wouldn't pay the money by credit card in advance, no way. Nothing should be paid in advance. I'd knock on the door and though I've never walked before if the escort was in my instant opinion not in the £500 category I'd fuck off so quickly you wouldn't see me for dust.

i never pay above 350 per hour. the deed is done usually in 20 mins and most girls i find dont like a 2nd go

I have not used a high end agency.

The girls certainly have the looks, even if that is photo-shopped.

Personality, I would expect better than a cheaper escort, but it depends on you and them interacting?

Services – they seem limited or is if just what they advertise?

An interesting thread

Yes I've punted all price ranges

My all time #1 girl is currently at 350ph, I've mentioned her many times before and won't again

We transcended the client-escort paradigm and I can say she's an exception at those prices - in terms of her looks, attitude and services, which she delivers with enthusiasm

In reality I don't think there's much value out there any more

I think my most expensive pro rata punts were with Dolls and Roses, Black Label and Hot Collection

The dolls and roses punt was a bait and switch at that price level which is ludicrous

The black label girl was also not really reflective of the profile

The Slavics now are somewhat hit and miss as are the Brazilians

I think the golden era of punting has passed

This year have used Bijoux, UKGG and sugarbabes and all again can be hit and miss

But yes I found a diamond in the rough, had some great times with her. They face a dilemma of whether to go to 500 ph plus and be less busy, but overall at 500 and above you're just wasting money

Oh well, life's a punt

MF

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ModelFuckerLives Wrote:
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> An interesting thread
>
> Yes I've punted all price ranges
>
> My all time #1 girl is currently at 350ph, I've
> mentioned her many times before and won't again
>
> We transcended the client-escort paradigm and I
> can say she's an exception at those prices - in
> terms of her looks, attitude and services, which
> she delivers with enthusiasm
>
> In reality I don't think there's much value out
> there any more
>
> I think my most expensive pro rata punts were with
> Dolls and Roses, Black Label and Hot Collection
>
> The dolls and roses punt was a bait and switch at
> that price level which is ludicrous
>
> The black label girl was also not really
> reflective of the profile
>
> The Slavics now are somewhat hit and miss as are
> the Brazilians
>
> I think the golden era of punting has passed
>
> This year have used Bijoux, UKGG and sugarbabes
> and all again can be hit and miss
>
> But yes I found a diamond in the rough, had some
> great times with her. They face a dilemma of
> whether to go to 500 ph plus and be less busy, but
> overall at 500 and above you're just wasting money
>
> Oh well, life's a punt
>
> MF
>
> X


Who you seen at bijouex. Toi expensive, but a recomendation and ill spend

Nesslad Wrote:
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> Not sure what's to learn from this post, apart
> from risk, retouching and "bullshit" pictures. I'm
> sure all new info is welcome but I can't see very
> much of use here.

Well, if you discount all the useful things people say, no one ever says anything useful. Not sure of the value of that.

This post was aimed at people who already know they want to go high-end, and I think will help them avoid wasting some time and money.


> It doesn't relate to me however
> as I would never pay these high end prices anyway.
> £700 an hour, or more than £10 a minute. £1,000 an
> hour, around £16 a minute. Really? Only for those
> who literally can afford to burn money for a
> laugh.

I didn't think there was any need for me to really go in to the "why" of going high-end, because the people who want to already know why, and there's absolutely no reason for me to encourage those who don't want to, to do so.

That said, since most of the responses have been along the lines of "I wouldn't pay that much" and expressing confusion as to why someone else would, in case you're interested, I'll go in to the "why"...

There are lots of different kinds of punters. Even the same person can be a different kind depending on their mood. I've been all of the following:

1. Just need to get off, and masturbation isn't doing it - find the cheapest escort you can
2. Want to feel alpha by having a high body count - again, cheapest possible will help you go further
3. Want to try out something new/specific that you don't experience in normal life - find a niche agency or independent that has what you're after (eg. a Thai girl), and minimise risk by going as cheap as you can while still getting what you wanted
4. Want to feel alpha by fucking a girl that other guys only dream of and is wildly out of your league

There's lots of other kinds as well, I'm sure. If you're chasing 4, then my experience of most cheaper escorts these days is that they are rarely anyone I would give a second glance at if passing them in the street. I've had a few cheap encounters where I specifically thought to myself "she should be paying me". Even the hottest ones are only 7s or 8s.

If you want the exhilaration of being with a Harper's Bazaar cover girl that has hundreds of thousands of other guys wanking over her, but you're the alpha that actually gets to fuck her, that isn't going to happen for <£500. She's £1500 on aprov.

It's a completely different experience with someone you can legit lust after and think is mind-blowinging beautiful, compared to an escort that simply turned out to be surprisingly hot.

Another part of the experience is certainly the exclusivity. Knowing I get to have these girls and most other punters do not is the cherry on top of the cake. It's like if a girl is just naked on the street for everyone to see, I'm not that interested. There's nothing special about seeing her naked. But getting to see a real model who has no nudes available anywhere and only sees the select few? And then she gives you a crazy hot strip tease and lap dance? Now that's special. That's something you actually remember. I can't say that I remember the majority of my cheaper punts.

Not everyone is going to be interested in 4 or care about any of the things I mentioned as positives above. But just like I can totally understand punters 1-3, and all other varieties of punters, I hope you can understand someone who wants to go high-end now.

Oundlegent Wrote:
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> Personality, I would expect better than a cheaper
> escort, but it depends on you and them
> interacting?

I don't think there's a correlation between price and personality, unfortunately. You get nice and not-so-nice at all price points.


> Services – they seem limited or is if just what
> they advertise?

The lists of things the girl will do on most agency websites is usually nonsense, except perhaps for things marked as you having to pay extra for. High-end agencies don't tend to list such things at all. I don't ask for anything unusual, but I suspect high-end girls are less likely to accommodate "porn star" type stuff. But I could be wrong. Just ask the agency booker and they can find out.

I inherited a considerable amount of money a decade ago and obviously toyed with the idea of going for the most expensive fare on offer. But I knew that I would not really enjoy it. I like sex with women but, horrified gasp from the wings, I ultimately find them boring. To be fair, I find everyone boring who does not share my very specific interests. I found that relatively economical low-ratio gangbangs with well-known porn-stars was much more fun. It is much more ego-boosting to be observed in action in situ than to recount events to third parties in reviews or (im)polite conversation. I have often been served caviar at conferences, but I actually prefer lump-fish eggs. Don't fall for the hype.

No, I wasn't intending to be critical of your post lemual, though looking at the bit I wrote I'd agree it probably seems that way, so I got the tone wrong there. For high end guys no doubt there was useful info. One thing I will add is that I do extract a positive from it which applies to the lower end of the scale. It's simply that if some guys are forking out hundreds of pounds on an outing, if I can afford it - and I can - then I should have no qualms about spending £150 or so. I can see what you're saying in the "why" follow up. An interesting observation.

Good to see you're still with us Moravian. If you've been absent for more than a week or two I do wonder. Are you still sticking to the line that you've been wheeled out of your very last gangbang or has your wrinkled old carcass made a reappearance. I've no doubt you've been back, being observed as you say in action again, serving up the grotesque spectacle of several unfortunate women straddling a skeletal bag of bones. Always good to hear from you anyway, of course.

Sorry Moravian, what I meant to say was I hope you are still able to enjoy the gangbang world if you want to do so. At 85, you crazy old fucker, you are an example to us all.

Your previously inaccurate assessment may be coming true. I have lost 42lb over the past year, and it shows. But that will not deter me if I find a 'party' which does not mandate STI certificates, flip-flops and dressing-gowns.

Modelfuckerlives i love that, mo is back!

Which girl was it anyway? There are alot of slim toned girls on there but i bet they are sensitive on their bodies, and don't touch me anywhere, thanks for the cash.
It's a shame every single girl doesnt have a video and they actually talk in them too which is how it should work imo. Also you should be able to meet all the girls having paid say £1000 and pick the one you like the best then it would be worth it.

I'd agree with that, decent. While I wouldn't criticise the original post as I say above, there was a lot of negativity in it. Reading it I think that's just a fact. It left me with questions, the main one being: Surely if you're forking out £700 or more you have some control over the situation and who exactly you get. If that's not available isn't it pointless spending that kind of money in the first place?

Nesslad Wrote:
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> Surely if you're forking out £700
> or more you have some control over the situation
> and who exactly you get. If that's not available
> isn't it pointless spending that kind of money in
> the first place?

You have an idea of who you'll get based on the pictures you saw, but your money doesn't give you any guarantees. You've still got to be thinking straight and be careful, which doesn't always happen when it's your balls doing the thinking

If you insist on enough pictures (unretouched) to assure yourself it's a girl you're really in to, and you can't find anyone close to her league for cheaper, you're probably going to get your money's worth. Especially if you don't care about personality. I do, so it's still always a gamble.

Things tend to go wrong with last-minute changes, eg. the girl you wanted suddenly can't make it, and then you let yourself be rushed into picking from girls you didn't fancy enough to consider.

Take your time, be careful, use a trusted agency, and walk away if the girl doesn't turn out to be straight out of your dreams.

I've managed to screw up a couple of times by not following those rules. I'm learning from my mistakes, and I hope others learn from them as well. The negativity in the OP was to try and really get across the point that the money doesn't get you anything other than a girl who wanted to charge that much. If you're naive, you think the money gets you more than that, so I really wanted to squash those thoughts.

Ho hum, I will simply repeat what I've said on several other posts, gorgeous girls are readily available on AW for anything from £120 to £170 an hour without the need for a trip to London so why pay those absurd amounts especially when, by all above accounts, it doesn't guarantee anything? My goodness, I had my brains fucked out by a very fit young Thai girl last Friday and I plan to see her and her lovely looking friend, working out of the same apartment, tomorrow for another hour of intense pleasure, total cost for the two £240 with, maybe, another £20 for owo. I have seen 20 plus girls this year who have ranged from 7 to 10 on the babeometer scale and who've delivered a range of amazing services (a few of those were at HOD). Diamonds amongst the rough, I should say so. It most definitely is not about how much you pay but is about finding the right girls offering the right services. A little AW research, a bit of experience in spotting genuine profiles, a spot of waiting for the right opportunities and the rewards are immense. Don't wish to believe me, fine, but I'm the one having all the fun without breaking the bank. Oh, and my standards as regards looks and services are high and based on lots of experience. Bring it on AW, gosh it's fun looking and booking!!

If that's 20 out of 200 you've seen I might believe you lotus. If it's 20 out of 20 I don't. No one else I've seen on here has anything much good to say about AW. Most, like me, think it's crap. As for your comment that "a bit of experience in spotting genuine profiles" is one of the secrets of your success, that sounds like BS. If you would care to expand, please do. But don't bother with the "look at the background, compare the furniture, the tattoos, do reverse imaging" etc etc etc. Heard it all before. NO amount of "experience" can help anyone identify if a picture on AW is an accurate representation of an escort or if she's 10 or 15 years older, fatter and uglier. NO ONE has cracked it up to now and I'll be very surprised if you're the first. And that's because it can't be done.

There are always be people who fall into the trap

As I said, if you don't wish to believe me fine, that's nothing to me. Anyway, my booking request for the 2 Thai girls has just been confirmed so I'll be having my fun this pm. I have mentioned about clues to genuine profiles elsewhere and it doesn't include any of those weird things you've mentioned! Sorry you don't have success with AW.

I'm not having a go at you lotus, in fact good luck to you if you're doing well. But I've had a look at your previous posts because if you've discovered a way to look at a picture profile and KNOW it's 100 per cent genuine I want to know what it is for my own use. But as far as I can see you haven't. No one has. It's easy to spot glam model obvious fakes. But it's IMPOSSIBLE to look at a picture profile on AW, VS, or in fact anywhere else and identify that it's totally genuine. If you have a method of doing that, as I've said, you'd be a first, and I'd like you to share what it is. With specifics, if you don't mind.

Which girl was it at aprov then someone who is loaded see her and get some feedback on here, sorted.

lotuseater Wrote:
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> I have seen 20
> plus girls this year who have ranged from 7 to 10
> on the babeometer scale and who've delivered a
> range of amazing services (a few of those were at
> HOD).

We all have different tastes and beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. If you're finding 7s to 10s for cheap, that's really great for you.

If your kink is Thai girls and similar, you're lucky. Yes, there are lots of them available for cheap.

If your kink is published models, and you have different tastes to what's available for cheaper, then it's simply the case you'll have to pay more to get what you want.

For reference, our taste is really different. Despite the fact that I'd also love a really hot Thai girl if I could find one, I wouldn't rate anyone I can see on HOD right now above a 5. For my tastes, the girls on high-end agencies are just in another league.

We want different things, and that's OK. No one is forcing you to pay more. This thread is about what you do when what you want is in the high-end.

To Nesslad, when I've got a bit more time I might delineate my methods for spotting good punt prospects on AW. To lemual all I would say about HOD is that a lot of the girls pics are blurred so you can't judge until you see them in the flesh anyway. Believe me, Scarlett is an easy 10 and she's not the only one. I do love seeing Brazilian and Thai girls and plenty of them on AW are well hot.

lotuseater Wrote:
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> To lemual all I would say about
> HOD is that a lot of the girls pics are blurred so
> you can't judge until you see them in the flesh
> anyway. Believe me, Scarlett is an easy 10 and
> she's not the only one. I do love seeing Brazilian
> and Thai girls and plenty of them on AW are well
> hot.

Again, this is all subjective. Just judging by Scarlett's photos, which one would assume would be retouched in her favour, much like most on HOD and AW and cheaper agencies, to me she looks like a perfectly normal woman. Hence I'd rate her a 5. I imagine most woman I pass on the street might look as good as her naked.

Ultimately, we're all here paying for things we can't normally get for free. Some pay for particular services, some pay for convenience, some pay for something exotic, etc. I pay to get someone out of my league. I'm not finding that anywhere other than high-end agencies unfortunately.

Lemual, and lotus possibly too, having covered high end agencies can we now move on to lower end agencies. I'm coming down to London in a few weeks time. From all that's been posted on the site about Asian agencies, Sexyasianescorts and Olina seem to consistently get good reports. I don't think Babylon focuses so much on Asians but they are highly rated too. If you know the London scene well have you any thoughts on this, and any others you would recommend? Any further info from anyone who knows the scene would be welcome.

Scarlett is a 10 in looks and services. If only most women looked that good naked!! Still, your loss Lemual, believe what you want. To Nesslad, well surprise, surprise I'd suggest HOD. Those high end agencies, going by all I've read on these forums, seem a waste of space. No guarantees of anything other than wasting cash. I have seen so many stunning women at HOD over the years, well out of my league and age group and, if they say they offer a service, they actually do which is worth a hell of a lot. I did try Babylon girls one time earlier this year when I was in town but none of the girls I'd shortlisted was even available at the times I required so I ended up, very satisfactorily, at HOD. By the way, Nesslad, seems you had a reasonable result with AW and a couple of Thai girls recently. Maybe you're getting the hang of it! My intended duo last Friday turned into a single as the other lass wasn't available but the one I did see was a 23 year old sweetie with a pretty face and killer bod so all was well.

Thanks for the info lotus. Oh, I think I've pretty much got the hang of it by now. First time in Amsterdam in 1976, and with 2,000 plus since then I've certainly had plenty practice. But nothing's guaranteed in this business, and there still are inevitable glitches along the way.

Hi there,new here so go easy...

Up until 4 years ago i was regularly seeing London independent companions via Cherry Girls,22 Burlington and Tryst but a motorcycle accident put pay to my fun until now and after reconstructive surgery to my leg and intestines i am back enjoying life again.

I have met with >£500ph ladies and many £300ph ladies and enjoyed all of the experiences and as the meets are minimum 4 hours it isn't all about sex but getting to talk and enjoy their company.
Many dates where day dates including theatre,movie,meal etc and are all etched in my mind forever.

I personally prefer the girl next door type and i also am vanilla so gfe is for me and i have met with a Scarlett a couple of times,not sure if it the same one though.

In 3 weeks i get to see a lady i have wanted to meet for 4 years but couldn't for obvious reasons...

High price or lesser i have found all my meets fantastic but while i look at AS and AW i steer clear for now and as i am only 30 mins from central London and regularly visit my office in South Kensington i have no excuses....



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