Looking but scared

I promise this is a health-related thread.

By way of background, I'm looking to hire an escort for the first time ever. Apart from being in a strip club once or twice - I have no exposure to this activity whatsoever.

I've been thorough with my research. Have looked up how to screen ads, how can experience differ between agency vs independent ladies, how to treat them, what is the etiquette, out/incalls etc. What I struggle to find is more information on STD/STI risks related specifically to engaging with UK (London) escorts.

Have googled a ton, posted multiple messages on reddit, read lots of AmAs, even called a free sex advise (or whatever) hotline. Main findings are that 1) always use condoms and 2) don't engage in OWO. Look for a lady who doesn't engage in either. In terms of safety and disease prevention measures, I don't have lots to go on apart from that so I'm still on the fence about everything.

Of course nothing is certain and there's always risk. Guess I'm looking to quantify that - hopefully to the extent that I'm comfortable to commit to a meeting. I'm very risk-averse as even testing for a disease - let alone getting treatment for it - would cause irrevocable havoc in my personal life (don't worry I don't have a wife or kids).

Ladies and gentlemen of punternet - what has your experience been? Is the risk fairly low? Are my measures sufficient? Should I ask for recent testing/proof? Does the risk go down by meeting higher-end escorts?

Thanks in advance.

How do you expect to quantify this?

The main concern I have is that you are not able to seek out testing, so you are yourself a risk.

I do not know what the risk is, I do not know how to quantify it. What I do know is I take the precautions I am happy with, and have a testing routine based on advice from the GUM, my own judgement and my own level of activity. That is what you need to do.

Also I have had bookings with incredibly anxious punters who would not let me kiss them, put their hand between my pubic bone and theirs, held the condom on, had minimal body contact. Whilst I understand the not kissing, the experience was very difficult and uncomfortable.

So consider are you going to enjoy it if you have a high level of concern. Punting may not be for you.

Risk can only be measured with a large sample, look at COVID, a 20yo is very very unlikely to die, but very occasionally one does.

It’s also easy to discuss it objectively when calm. My first punt, I needed to work up the courage and then on the day the lady I had carefully chosen didn’t reply to the confirmatory phone call (she text the next day to apologise – a family emergency.

As I had decided to meet and worked up the courage I went to the reserve list, it was long but few answered, eventually I got my meet. Then during sex I slipped out and the condom slid off, we all know the correct procedure a new condom! She said put it back on and carry on! Cock hard, very aroused, a beautiful young lady with her legs open inviting me to continue fucking her, I did as I was told!!

Later my cock was sore, probably too much exercise so I had to find the time to go to the STI clinic, getting the all clear.

Part of the risk is how you will behave in a new situation when aroused with a new partner – that takes a lot of self control.

Of course next time I had my own supply of condoms.

Whilst I know this is to protect yourself, I would not use a condom from an opened box. Also I am a little cautious with some brands and types because they have reputation for splitting.

Thanks for the responses.

I'm not concerned about bringing anything to the table coming untested - I've had a single partner in the last 7 years and both of us feel great and had no indication of a STD/STI during this time. The concern is taking something away from the single encounter I'm debating over.

It's indeed reassuring to know that ladies in this line of work take good care of themselves - you're not the first one to talk about this. Appreciate there's a risk that something is contracted inbetween tests.

Not planning on being weird or anything during the meeting - it's more about making the decision to do it or not. If I do decide to proceed - one of my main turn ons is to see that the lady is enjoying herself as well, through a GFE experience and so on. Intention is to go all in if I do make the decision to go ahead - within the boundaries of aforementioned measures.

Is it common/acceptable during the initial call to ask about testing? I don't mean to be rude but it would certainly make me feel more comfortable. Of course they could always lie ...

Without being cynical it makes me wonder if the enquirer is using my testing to consider themselves 'safe', also that they are relying on answers from strangers they have no connection with.

Sometimes those who say they are 'clean because I don't have sex with anyone else' go on to question why I won't allow unprotected genital contact.

Although common sense and logical enough, the question can ring alarm bells. Whilst it can be nice to be trusted I would rather people took responsibility for their own sexual health.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/09/2021 16:29 by Ruth Strawberry.

Tested is reassuring in that the person looks after their health, but when was the test done, some STI may not show immediately and how many partners since the test? Escorts are likely to have their own “love lives” and do they use condoms then?

Oundlegent Wrote:
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> Tested is reassuring in that the person looks
> after their health, but when was the test done,
> some STI may not show immediately and how many
> partners since the test? Escorts are likely to
> have their own “love lives” and do they use
> condoms then?
>
>

This one decided over 10 years ago to always use a condom for intercourse right across all areas of my life.

One repeat booker once said "I wish I had married you, then we would not have to use a condom", err well I then informed him that across my life means across my life. I have not had uncovered intercourse for eleven years.

Of course I could be making that up!

When asked "Are you clean" my reply is often "I cannot guarantee I am free from STIs, to do so would be wrong - I cannot because I am only as negative as the last sample date, and those samples are only accurate to 2 - 4 weeks prior".

Also quite a few people are not aware of oral transmission, and more people do not request or receive oral testing.

Ruth

The 100% rule is ideal until you are in an exclusive relationship.

I am 100% with escorts, but do enjoy french kissing and oral without.

Cautious_joe, any updates?

How was your experience?

I'm also looking to hire an escort for the first time. Looking for reassurance and how to avoid high probability of risks.

I have had to take health and fitness screens in the past including test for STIs/STDs. So I would very much like to minimise the risk.

I have a few more questions. Would appreciate it very much for any advice.

1. I read that seeing and escort can be safer than casual dating, due to the personal care. Would like some to hear the views of others.
2. It’s hard to find a lady who doesn’t offer OWO. Is it rude to ask the lady for OWC, if her advert says OWO?
3. What are everyone’s views on taking the hpv vaccine? Also, does this mean that most escorts have taken it and can’t pass it on?
4. Do agencies keep track of tests?

So many opinions will come forward but facts.

1 - Unless they are a virgin (and you can be born with a STI), it all depends on the partners, partners, some one who has only had one partner won't know that partners history for certain. WHat you are reading is hopeful/a sales pitch.

2 - you are the client she should deliver her likes to you desires, manu only offer OW.

3 Read NHS advice

4 Ask the one you are booking with.

Brucehunter Wrote:
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> I'm also looking to hire an escort for the first
> time. Looking for reassurance and how to avoid
> high probability of risks.
>
> I have had to take health and fitness screens in
> the past including test for STIs/STDs. So I would
> very much like to minimise the risk.
>
> I have a few more questions. Would appreciate it
> very much for any advice.
>
> 1. I read that seeing and escort can be safer than
> casual dating, due to the personal care. Would
> like some to hear the views of others.
> 2. It’s hard to find a lady who doesn’t offer OWO.
> Is it rude to ask the lady for OWC, if her advert
> says OWO?
> 3. What are everyone’s views on taking the hpv
> vaccine? Also, does this mean that most escorts
> have taken it and can’t pass it on?
> 4. Do agencies keep track of tests?


Some people consider Escorts higher risk because even if they are using condoms for intercourse, depending on the individual they may have many more partners - the risk being the sheer numbers but this can vary widely. Some Escorts may have sex with a handful each week, some the same in one day. Also every booking may not involve intercourse or much if any sexual contact.

I do not mind if a punter/client asks for OWO as I see it it provides me with extra protection.

General NHS advice is to not give HPV to adults, theory is adults are likely to have already encountered various forms of HPV already. For this reason NHS/GUM tend to not give the vaccine freely. I bought the vaccine privately before my 45th birthday (the cut off point for the vaccine approval/rules), some may be put off by the £600 (then the total for the 3 injections) price tag.

Thank you; that was very helpful.

One final question. I would also like to ask if I can inquire with the agency or escort about her history with herpes or HPV. Would this be reasonable? Im a little concerned as they are not curable. Or, do they not test for these as they are very common?

If not, I am considering just getting an erotic massage and OWC, believing the risks will be negligible.

Brucehunter Wrote:
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> Thank you; that was very helpful.
>
> One final question. I would also like to ask if I
> can inquire with the agency or escort about her
> history with herpes or HPV. Would this be
> reasonable? Im a little concerned as they are not
> curable. Or, do they not test for these as they
> are very common?
>
> If not, I am considering just getting an erotic
> massage and OWC, believing the risks will be
> negligible.


Most adults have encountered/been exposed to both HPV & Herpes.

Also be aware HPV is usually only tested for by health authorities during cervical screenings, they test for the varieties associated with cancer. These screenings are every 3 years after age 25 - some women for some very good reasons decline these screenings.

So in my opinion even if agencies disclosed medical details it's impossible to have up to the moment accurate, specific information.

Also be aware STI tests are only a snapshot from the sample taken, different STIs have different detection and accuracy times.

I think most agencies will consider you overly intrusive.

Also you need to be asking qualified medical staff these questions.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 24/01/2024 08:17 by Ruth Strawberry.