No penetration, no blow job, no kissing

just playing with boobs, cuddles, massage and a hand job. Is this enough to make it zero risk of getting an STI? Or is this being over cautious?

OR is it still not enough to be at zero risk?

I know its not full enjoyment but its enough for me. Plus have the benefit of not having the discomfort from a condom.

If it's enough for you, and you have peace of mind then that is your risk assessment. Only you can make it.

"No penetration, no blow job, no kissing", no point!!

What you are happy to pay for is entirely up to you or any other individual so 'no point' is immaterial and up to the person paying.

What constitutes no risk is impossible for others to assess; none of us know the health of the escort.

It seems obvious to me that if you are looking for this contact at present, you run the pandemic risk but you don't say if you are looking to stat/resume seeing escorts soon.

As Strawberry says, you have to assess your own level of acceptable risk.

Put on a hazmat suit and leave nothing but your triple bagged willy sticking out and should be zero percent risk then
Zero percent fun also though

Raymondo45 Wrote:
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> "No penetration, no blow job, no kissing", no
> point!!


This goes for me too in a normal punt so may dip my toes back in the water with a massage with ' happy ending ' but not just yet.

Surely if i kiss someone who doesnt have sores on their mouth, then it should be low risk to catch something?

Addictpaul Wrote:
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> Surely if i kiss someone who doesn't have sores on
> their mouth, then it should be low risk to catch
> something?

I am a bit taken aback by this.

Will you have a mask on against that darn parademic some people say is doing the rounds? - and that's just for starters. I would have thought lots of conditions are infectious even when they don't have visible symptoms.

If as your name suggests you are some kind of prostitute addict, taking precautions, minimising risk etc should surely be at the top of your agenda.



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charlieton Wrote:
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> Addictpaul Wrote:
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> > Surely if i kiss someone who doesn't have sores
> on
> > their mouth, then it should be low risk to
> catch
> > something?
>
> I am a bit taken aback by this.
>
> Will you have a mask on against that darn
> parademic some people say is doing the rounds? -
> and that's just for starters. I would have thought
> lots of conditions are infectious even when they
> don't have visible symptoms.
>
> If as your name suggests you are some kind of
> prostitute addict, taking precautions, minimising
> risk etc should surely be at the top of your
> agenda.

So if infection isn't visible then you'll be ok?
Not a good policy to follow,imo.

fatboy Wrote:
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> charlieton Wrote:
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> > Addictpaul Wrote:
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Surely if i kiss someone who doesn't have
> sores
> > on
> > > their mouth, then it should be low risk to
> > catch
> > > something?
> >
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> > I am a bit taken aback by this.
> >
> > Will you have a mask on against that darn
> > parademic some people say is doing the rounds?
> -
> > and that's just for starters. I would have
> thought
> > lots of conditions are infectious even when
> they
> > don't have visible symptoms.
> >
> > If as your name suggests you are some kind of
> > prostitute addict, taking precautions,
> minimising
> > risk etc should surely be at the top of your
> > agenda.
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>
> So if infection isn't visible then you'll be ok?
> Not a good policy to follow,imo.

Just to be clear, I only wrote the bit in bold. The text samples here are not properly attributed to the actual writers in the previous response..

I put the name addict in as had to think of something random to put in when signing up and couldn't be bothered to use numbers. I'm talking about all of this after the virus is over, whenever that is as I'm sure the virus will disappear eventually. However STIs will always be there and don't want to risk getting one of those. From what i gather, seems like you won't get to zero risk

Addictpaul Wrote:
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> I put the name addict in as had to think of
> something random to put in when signing up and
> couldn't be bothered to use numbers. I'm talking
> about all of this after the virus is over,
> whenever that is as I'm sure the virus will
> disappear eventually. However STIs will always be
> there and don't want to risk getting one of those.
> From what i gather, seems like you won't get to
> zero risk

Thanks for clarifying

I am not too worried about STI's personally. I believe the odds of catching anything serious are low enough and in many ways an Escort is safer than a one night stand as long as you chose your lady sensibly. Hygiene and testing go hand in hand with the job.

I think if you are seriously concerned about getting and STI from an escort, then punting is not for you. Of course there is some risk and if that is too much for you, then don't take it.

Catching Covid-19 is more of a problem for me; I am in that age, weight and fitness bracket that puts me at a higher risk of complications. It comes down to determining personal risk and, in general, I am fairly risk tolerant. I think I will be taking the plunge sooner rather than later, but not just yet. As for the idea that playing with boobs, cuddles, massage and a hand job is safer than kissing and fucking. I don't imagine there is much science to back that up at all, assuming you always use a condom and don't over do the DFK. OWO carries more risk for the girl than you, but again, it is down to you to decide if you want to take that risk, assuming she does. Oral sex is not generally considered to be a low risk activity, it is unprotected penetration that is the big no no.

Looks like only 1% of the population have it
[lockdownsceptics.org]

Unless you are in an at risk group like Tee jay, then you are not really at risk
most are asymptiomatic

I think you also have to consider people you live with who may be vulnerable.

But for most of us i reckon the risk is greater driving to the punt than from COVID.

Addictpaul Wrote:
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> just playing with boobs, cuddles, massage and a
> hand job. Is this enough to make it zero risk of
> getting an STI? Or is this being over cautious?
>
> OR is it still not enough to be at zero risk?
Surely you know it's about transfer of bodily fluids so obviously you can behave in any manner that doesn't do that. You must also know that in theory the girl could have another man's cum on her hands or boobs and that could get transferred. That is a risk you can figure out for yourself. BTW I have punted perhaps a thousand times having full intercourse and oral. I consider my risk infinitely small since I don't transfer fluids and never had a condom break (which is very low risk for a man anyway).

Hi all. Going back to subject of just kissing and cuddling. Understand you can get Herpes, cmv or syphilis. Lets say one did catch that and showed symptoms/got tested positive for it. Could your wife accuse you of having an affair ie busted!!! or is it not as simple as that ie there are other ways it might have been caught? Eg sharing utensils or might have touched someone without knowing?

Or using public toilets.

All I'm asking is if its possible to get a kissing sti through non intimate encounters?

On another note I understand you can lower risk by checking for cold sores / warts.

Zero risk of STD, still risk of Covid though.
Massages and handjobs are under-rated in my view. 1) you can totally relax and not have to do anything. 2) you don't need a condom 3) hands give more contact over more areas than fucking does. Finger on anus, hand on balls, other hand on cock - can't beat it. Usually costs less as well.

Although some people may not actually consider oral sex "sex" because it does not involve vaginal penetration, it can still lead to the spread of STIs. Our expert says that oral sex should remain sexual, despite some misconceptions among many students, and it can lead to the transmission of herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and other diseases. Sexually transmitted diseases (STIs) can spread during oral sex through contact with infected secretions and body surfaces. Our expert emphasizes that although condoms can reduce the spread of diseases, he cannot always be sure that infection is completely prevented. But it is always safe to use a condom during oral sex between penis or dental dams for oral and vaginal sex.

It also suits me for a normal kick so I might dip my toes in the water with a "happy ending" massage but not yet.