This strange, vague concern about "trafficking"

I keep more often seeing on Punternet guys expressing concern about trafficking and even thinking of avoiding meets because of it. It doesn't make much sense to me.

I'm as much against it in principle as anyone else. No doubt it does happen but I think the problem is wildly exaggerated by feminista politicians who want to criminalise paying for sex and they shouldn't be given any encouragement in their anti men, selfish bitch obsession.

I can honestly say I've never been with an escort I believe has been trafficked. The vast majority are confident, assertive, in control and very much in charge. That's been my experience. These women are tough, sometimes too much so. No one's pushing them around.

And finally, even if a woman has been "trafficked" how, exactly, are you going to know? If they were chained to a bed that'd be a clue. But short of that, what's the answer? Are they going to admit it if you ask them? Don't think so. If there's a guy in the place is he a trafficker or just a friend or even boyfriend? Who can tell?

If anyone concerned about trafficking could tell me clear, definitive, unambiguous signs to look out for, I might start looking. Until then, dithery concerns from punters about so called trafficking are not something I can make any sense of.

Watch these TV Programes on BBC iplayer and Channel 4 Apps... Sold: Sex Slaves Next Door and Taken: Hunting The Sex Traffickers. By the way it isn't just if a girl is happy or not it's where the money goes behind all of this... Child porn, gun crime, drugs etc the trail of misery left behind it. Priti Patel puts trafficking on par with terrorism. A couple of years ago we had such nonsence trashing historic statues, the british are vile racists and moaning about past history (slavery).

These people should've complained about slavery today.. Forced prostitution there are many child brothels abroad, look at where the cheap tat Primark clothes are made sweat shops in Bangladesh, these EE fruit market stalls the poor fruit picker sods getting 5 quid a day and their passports taken away from them, even domestic foreign cleaners are exploited and treated like shit, minimum wage does not cover what goes on in the home and a french au pair Sophie Lionnet was murdered about 3 or 4 years ago 2 bastards took her passport, kept her as a slave, tortured and murdered her.



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Yes, no doubt all true to some extent or other. But not of much relevance to "trafficking" in the UK.

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I can honestly say I've never been with an escort I believe has been trafficked. The vast majority are confident, assertive, in control and very much in charge. That's been my experience. These women are tough, sometimes too much so. No one's pushing them around.

Doesn’t that strongly suggest that you have seen independent ladies?
Trafficked girls are likely to:
• Have a pimp
• Speak poor English
• Work from poor premises/perhaps even a brothel
• Move around a lot
Of course there are the UK girl on drugs that are pimped in a different way.
There is no 100% guarantee, an Hungarian I met in Leicester was almost certainly not trafficked, is she had have been I would have returned.

I used to take some offence that people would think or worry that I was trafficked or coerced. My decision to start sex work was my own, alone, however I have learned a lot about trafficking, through reports and consideration.

So the women who decide to come to this country to work, for a better life I suspect they are tough, I also suspect they don't know where to turn when they arrive and discover the true nature of the work they now have to do. They may be raped constantly by several people all stronger than they are. No matter how tough or strong I guess that would be difficult to get out of, and they may not even know where or how to obtain help.

As someone has just posted on another forum, if you have been demeaned, abused, assaulted enough you may lose that tough spark, become compliant and become very plausible.

But for the grace of God could very well apply.

Many of the women who chose to come to the UK for a better life did not exactly do it the above board kosher legal way sadly a few were duped / conned. There must have been signs something not quite right back in their homeland dodgy criminals offering false Too good to be true promises ie We can get you over in the UK just one snag though you gotta pay thousands back. I saw it on the news the other week dodgy Polish traffickers offering Ukrainians a way out, No doubt sneak into the UK.

In my opinion and millions of others The free movement of people was scandalously abused. Now it's a lot harder for these criminals to cheat our system and exploit the vunerable.

The posts above make fair enough points but they are all generalisations. We know or can assume that trafficking goes on to some extent and no one disagrees that it is cruel, exploitative, inhumane and all the rest of it. It's a very nasty business and no one should want to be part of it. But how are clients expected to know if a woman is being trafficked or not? That's all I'm asking in response to the increasing punter led concern about the problem.

It actually smacks of hypocrisy or pointless virtue signalling at the very least. I have a solution. Those who express concern about trafficking should pack it all in and give up seeing escorts entirely, unless they have long term knowledge of a woman's non trafficked situation. And they should then join feminista based, anti men, selfish bitch groups campaigning strongly to criminalise paying for sex. Who are making serious progress on that front, and are successfully spreading the myth or blatant lie that "the vast majority of women in the sex industry are being trafficked".

Then "reformed" punters will have crystal clear consciences, and will have paid a valuable role when criminalisation becomes law.

It's already been mentioned...

WGs speak crap English
Pimped
In the comms everything in okish English You arrive at the property she can't speak a word of it. I often did google translate on the phone. All foreign WGs know what fuck means.
Flat / House is a shitus
She slips it out during the punt she travels round the UK whoring.
On AW and VS profiles in the same area are similar if you got half a brain cell you can work out which profiles they are.

I am not a reformed punter or stabbed the industry in the back. Some things stink about this business. I preferred to see escorts / ladies at the gang bang parties, reputable / well-known parlours and agencies. No chance of seeing trafficked WGs. It's the pimps i hate. It isn't punters that highlighted this the police have been raiding properties for many years also complaining the government does not do enough. I guess Priti Patel is putting her foot down on all trafficking. clamping down on people trying to enter the UK illegally and all that stuff about Rwanda.

I am not punting at the moment because what's on offer locally is shite. I like fit young birds not past their sell by date old wrinkly SPs.



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You say it's the pimps you hate. Have you truthfully ever seen or spoken to a pimp in the UK? If you have what did you say to him? What was his reply? I'm guessing your views on pimps are guesswork. Have you ever been with a woman in the UK who you were 100 per cent certain was trafficked? How did you know? Stuff about poor English, crappy flats and moving around a lot don't cut it. I've been with countless women who didn't speak good English, who weren't bothered about their flats because they'd only rented them for a month, and who moved around all the time, as they virtually all do. And I'm certain none were trafficked. And in this country at least I've never seen a pimp in my life. And I'm talking specifically about the UK, not anywhere abroad.



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You don't really have a good old fashioned chat with a pimp they're usually hidden away in another room they only really show themselves when there are issues during a punt (I have read punters comments on other forums pimps carried a baseball bat) I am sure i read guys fled for their lives one in Scotland another in London. I had a altercation with a pimp at a flat in London a few years back. I won, he lost. The less said about it the better.

Well I must be a helluva lucky guy to have avoided all those baseball bats for the past 40 years, and never have had a single problem or even the vaguest hint of one. By Christ all these hidden pimps must have been hiding away pretty effectively for all that time. The most alarmed I've been on a visit over those 40 years was when I hauled my clothes off in too much of a hurry on one visit, and then couldn't find my trousers. Which we located under the bed.

I'm guessing you're in the Scottish Highlands loads of countryside and all that. Maybe pimps think it's too far to travel, weather is cold or scared the Loch Ness Monster will bite them. Who knows?

Maybe, but I've done my fair share in Glasgow as well. The pimps must be very timid and keep well out of sight there too.

This may be of interest

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This is a newspaper investigation have they bothered to browse the Ads on VivaStreet. Most of the time the police are powerless to gain convictions. The next best thing is tighten up the UK borders. I had noticed a few months ago there were less foreign profiles on AW and VS than say 3 or 4 years ago. Most of these women gave guys crap services notably Romanians. These traffickers bring thousands of people / women into the UK It's very rare anyone asks Where does this money go? What does it fund? I was told organised crime, child porn rings, drugs and they don't pay a bean in tax.



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